Hawaii – the Jamaica of the Pacific

Hawaiians assault whites with impunity, while Democrats push to increase discrimination through passage of the Hawaiian Native Rights bill which will create a separate government, exempt from the Constitution, in our fiftieth state.  This is all the dream of those teachers of my kids who debunked the idea of America was a melting pot and was, instead, a boiling cauldron of sdistinct races, ethnicities and cultures, all with grievances against the white man.

You’d be an idiot to visit Jamaica and leave the guarded confines of your hotel (alright, you’d be an idiot to visit Jamaica, period). St. Croix is no place for a white man. And now Hawaii holds no welcome for all non-native tourists or residents, be they white, Asian or black. This is considered progress.

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18 responses to “Hawaii – the Jamaica of the Pacific

  1. Greenwich Gal

    Ridiculous! Have you ever been to Jamaica? I have – several times. And boy am I white. I have driven around most of the countryside – on my own with kids in tow and have only been met by people – yes, black people! – who are proud of their country. I avoided Kingston but found the rest of Jamaica and Jamaicans beautiful and lovely. Were there some skeevy types on the way who tried to sell us doobies and whatnot- yes. It IS a third world country. Come to think of it Chris, you sound so uptight and priggish that YOU could use a trip to Jamaica, doobie included!

  2. Anonymous

    Yes, let’s stop spending our money visiting these “island paradises,” starve out the bastards and let their racist residents stew in their own nasty juices!

    But wait…

    If you actually knew these places, you would know that the vast majority of the inhabitants of these islands are nice, kind and peaceful people who wouldn’t hurt a fly.

    What about them?

  3. WCI

    If you stick to tourist areas in Hawaii you are fine, but venture out (and yes, some state parks are considered to be “Hawaiian only”) and you are looking for trouble, no matter what your race.

    I experienced this on the North Shore of Oahu a few years ago. I was with a friend who is a native (mix of white, Chinese, and Hawaiian) and her Chinese American husband.

    We stopped for a “shave ice” and before getting out of the car, she repeatedly told us not to open our mouths. At all. Unfortunately, first thing out of the car, her husband opened his mouth (he’s a smart ass who thinks he knows everything, he thought he had a passable pidgin accent, he was wrong). We were immediately crowded by a bunch of young men wanting to know what the “haoles” were doing in “their” part of the island.

    I was scared shitless and so was my friend, I never heard such thick pidgin come out of her mouth before or since that day. They finally let us go, we got our shave ice and left, it was all very very tense.

    I didn’t realize quite how tense it was until she pulled over a few miles down the road and vomited.

    I haven’t felt the need or desire to go back since that last visit.

    Sorry, very off topic…

    It’s interesting that the Akaka Bill is back again. I hope it’s no more successful than in it’s last eight incarnations.

  4. Chief Sachem

    Try seeing it from our point of view, white man.

  5. concerned

    it’s progress because it is the white man that is beingn opressed.

  6. HG

    “similarly IQ and taste-challenged little critters”

    Not very politically correct, but more importantly, not factually correct. I assume you are referring the Japanese habit in the 1980s of overpaying for real estate…but didn’t (white) America just repeat this mistake, doubly bad since America could have relied on the Japan real estate bubble as a warning? More broadly, if Asian IQs are so low, why does (white) America have to rely on quotas to keep elite universities less than 50% Asian (really not much different than the quotas that artificially held down Jewish enrollment in the Ivy League 70-80 years ago). I am sure you were aiming for Jonathan Swift but I am afraid you achieved something more like Dan Quayle (facts are stupid things).

    • christopherfountain

      Did Anonymous sneak in another racist comment? I weed out almost everything he writes because of that but sometimes, I slip up.Off he goes – not only is racism stupid, but anyone who thinks the Japanese are stupid is beyond reason and not worth listening to.

  7. Anonymous

    Everyone on the Islands knows about local ‘kine, da’ hui, an’ da’ wolves.

    WCI had the happenstance of traveling with a smart-ass friend on Oahu’s north shore, one of the most local’ly spots in all the Islands. He was really lucky his friend and therefore the entire party didn’t get severely beat-up.

    The North Shore, the seven mile stretch of beach from Kahuku to Haleiwa has the most tremendous concentration of high-quality surf in the world. The winter surf is a true wonder of nature, magnificent waves the size of three and four story city blocks. The scene is an intense hothouse of aggro competitive surfing. It’s dense; it’s crowded. This is not your land of laid back California dreamin’.

    Imagine if the best golf courses in Greenwich were guarded not by laws of private membership and money, but entry was through a portal of skill and anyone could walk on the courses, provided they can play well and are willing to back it up. Now imagine that any offense of bad play, bad manners or lack of understanding of local customs were subject to violent comment and enforcement from a crowd of watching, competitive, critical, high-skill players. The different physical demands of surfing versus golfing aside, that’s the North Shore surf scene.

    Surfing is an integral part of Polynesian culture. The best surfing beaches are shrines. In-season for the locals, they are a daily test of the skill and values of a sea-faring warrior culture. Earn their respect in the winter waves and race doesn’t matter a bit. There are some breaks where no one, not even visiting Hawaiians from other parts of the Islands, surf without first visiting the local elders to ask permission. Clueless, casual intermediate-level tourist surfers won’t make it out of the parking lot, let alone get to the waves.

    The North Shore is also home to a large, meaning big, Hawaiian population. This fall checkout the roster of the Kahuku High School football team; their offensive and defensive lines are NFL size, if not bigger as they were for years before the NFL decided to bulk up.

    The North Shore is an extreme. There are places on the outer islands, deep country, end of the earth type places, where the vibe is one of deep peace and harmony with nature. A paradise of glorious nature and welcoming locals – as long as one is respectful and can rip.

    Hui o he’e nalu

  8. digler

    Jamaica was mellow until the Columbian cartel started using the island as a transport hub for the cocaine trade. The homies do not handle their crack that well, yet, they are very handy with a machete. You wander off the reservation down there (i.e. leave Round Hill/Tryall) and they may find your head in a a garbage bag and the rest of you buried in the jungle. This island has become a truly horrifying place to visit!

  9. Cobra

    “…were there some skeevy types on the way who tried to sell us doobies…”

    Greenwich Gal–Did you get any contact information for any of those “types?”

  10. Old Coot

    Re first comment: is the use of the racial epithet “Jap” suddenly OK?

  11. Greenwich Gal

    Stayed at Round Hill and Tryall with a car and drove all around. We were nervous at first but honestly never met with any trouble at all. Just some Rastafarians trying to make a buck with some home grown, you know, and those days are over for me. We just said “No thanks, mon” and all was cool. Although we do have a great story about our kid who came back to school and told the teachers about the people with funny snake hair who smoked mozzarella…

  12. WCI

    Anon @ September 1, 2009 at 8:26 am-

    I have no doubt if it had been two haole dudes and one local girl, the outcome would have been different, or if all three of us had been mainlanders…

    I think we were very very lucky to get out of there just suffering from fear and intimidation. We were just sightseeing that day, we weren’t carrying surf or boogie boards.

    Reading the NYT article gave me shivers, I’ve read quite a bit about Kala Alexander, Eddie Rothman and da hui/da kine/wolfpak in the Honolulu papers and elsewhere online. Very scary people!

    I’ll shut up about it now, sorry.

  13. Anonymous

    Greenwich Gal,
    Of all the places to visit, why would you visit Jamaica ‘several times’? If Jamaica is so safe, why would you dismiss the delights of Kingston?

    What exactly are the Jamaican people proud of in their country? The crime rate ? The employment rate ? The lavish Plantations ?

    Jamaica is certainly beautiful with wonderful people. Why highlight the colour of their skin ?

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magazines/Business/html/20090808T200000-0500_157030_OBS_FIRST_WORLD_DEBT_TO_GDP_TO_MIRROR_JAMAICA_S_BY______.asp

  14. Greenwich Gal

    Ok Anon – if you want to be a jerk – have you EVER been there? I am not saying it is Palm Beach – one has to be realistic. Kingston is not a great place, but the rest of Jamaica is nice and interesting indeed. Why would people go there?
    The Jamaicans are proud people who are trying to pull their country up. They have head centuries of slavery and oppression and colonial rule. Surely you know this? But they have a strong history, culture and cuisine. They have a beautiful country. They have world class athletes, coffee, resorts. And yes I mention the color of their skin as it is obvious what color they are and – in my opinion – it does not matter. It was said in sarcasm. I can only judge by what I know – and I have known them to be a good people – trying to get by in a challenging world.

  15. Haole

    I love Hawaii. I had the privilege of being introduced to the islands while in the Navy. I spent four recent years on Oahu and I hope to return to live there again. Testing my meddle on the North Shore transformed me into a big wave surfer. I can’t think of any other place I’d rather be than paddling out at Sunset Beach at 6 a.m. when it’s 15 foot and still cleared out from the night. It consumes me.

    There’s a lot of Aloha in Hawaii, but you don’t have to look too far to find an unprovoked racist sentiment against whites. I encountered it directly a few times and walked on eggshells much more. Myself, a buddy and our girlfriends (all haole) where quietly leaving a movie theater in Kapolei one night when a truck full of local high-school age guys carrying bats and boards drove their truck around us in the parking lot. They held their weapons up high and were chanting “Haole Patrol”. It was totally uncalled for and we didn’t do anything to provoke them. It enraged me later. I wanted to gun them all down for their ignorance and audacity.

    I always try to tread lightly on the West side of the island and the North Shore. In my early days on the island, I had heard so many stories of bad vibes and worse directed towards haoles that I was scared into that mode. I’ve met some of the friendliest locals on both the West side and North Shore, but ignorance is also at it’s strongest levels in both spots. This ignorance is a product of racist parents/family members, a poor and uneducated upbringing, jealousy, and blame for a stain on Hawaii’s sovereign history that current generation Haoles had nothing to do with.

    On a small surf day on the N. Shore one day, I was paddling against another surfer for a wave. I backed off at the last second and he took it. I was immediately informed by another older guy in the lineup that he was (Name withheld -Notorious Long Time N. Shore local) and he would kill me. This was coming from a 50 some year old man, not a high school bully’s entourage. Some people never grow up or can think with reason and decency. I paddled in to the beach to avoid any bullshit that day. The last thing I would ever want is to be blackballed from the N. Shore for something stupid or experience any of the violence that the narrators of “Bustin Down the Door” recount.

    When I left Hawaii, the movers were supposed to build me a crate to protect my custom made surfboards. When I dropped them off for packing, I got a strong vibe of resentment from the young local movers of Crown Relocations. My surfboards arrived on the mainland with very visible intentional damage. Once again, I was enraged at a select few local Hawaiian’s audacity of ignorance.

    I remember hearing about the white Army couple getting beat senseless by that local family. That enraged me as well. The courts need to set an example that this type of racist violence will not be tolerated. They are far from it right now. Denial is the current trend. I’m not sure what kind of educational programs they are running in the Hawaii schools, but if this racist sentiment is not being directly confronted, it will continue. It’s a shame that such a magical place has this racism perpetuate. Bring back true Aloha.