Here’s the real blizzard

Municipal pensions. Everyone knows what’s coming but politicians have always been willing to trade immediate labor peace for destruction down the road,when they are no longer in office to deal with the catastrophe. That day has come.

Walking his shih tzu Sam in sunny Coconut Creek, Fla., easygoing and slightly stooped Henry Licker doesn’t seem like someone who could bring down a city.

But it’s Licker and some 24,000 other NYC Transit retirees whose pension costs helped push the MTA board to vote last week for “doomsday” cuts — including slashing bus and subway lines, and forcing students who got free MetroCards to pay half-fares — to help close a nearly $400 million budget gap.

The transit agency spent $533.6 million on pension expenses last fiscal year, and is expected to pay $550.5 million this fiscal year.

Meanwhile, some 275,000 retired NYC employees — including 69,775 teachers, 44,290 cops, 17,404 firefighters and 13,664 others — cost city taxpayers $6.7 billion this year, as officials dipped into the general revenue to make up pension-investment shortfalls. That’s up from only $703 million in 2000. By 2013, taxpayers will be on the hook for $12.3 billion.

New York City pensions, which increase each year whether the stock market rises or falls, threaten to hit the city “like a tsunami,” one expert said.

Repeat this story nationwide, for every little town and big municipality, then add each states own retired employees, and you might wonder how it’s all going to be paid for. You might – your elected representatives didn’t but then, the bill’s coming due on you.

UPDATE: Judging from at least one reader’s comment, my point that this is a national crisis was not made adequately clear. Here’s a site that’s been documenting this coming disaster for years.

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  1. whatever

    nys and nys (nys covers nyc but i just wanted to be clear) deserves all it gets!!

    what did brody say? “…open up wide…”

  2. Anonymous

    dear whatever… if you think the financial catastrophe is limited to nyc, you’re dreaming. if you look at greenwich pension obligations, it would shock anyone with a bit of common sense. unlike corporations, which must make a provision for the promises they make to their employees, states and cities and towns do NOT. and, government pensions are much more generous than corporate pensions. so greenwich is currently paying for those who are already retired, but has made NO provision for the hundreds of workers who are entitled to gold-plated pensions but are still working… so don’t be smug; you too will pay through the nose, as will your grandchildren.

  3. Greenwich Ex-Pat

    Oh, please. I’ll start whining about pensions when I see some real justice being meted out to Da Boyz. Although I do think that, in the matter of public pensions and retirement funds, taxpayers should not have to make up for the damage done by public pension and fund “managers” who invested unwisely and made deals with Lehman, etc.

    Ultimagely, no bills are going to come due on me or anyone else, although there might be a brief and chaotic period of time during which attempts are made. At some point this puppy’s going down, the board will be swept and re-set. At which point pensioners will be SOL.

    While billions of dollars are being distributed in bonuses to DaBoyz, it’s pretty hard for me to begrudge some public servant. Not all of them are slackers. Some are actually dedicated, decent folks who are able to get things done despite the crappy system within which they have to work.

  4. Walt

    Dude -
    Sometimes I think you get it. Then other times you seem dumb as a brick. Why do you think we are nationalizing healthcare? The government is going to decide what is best. So when these pension liabilities get out of hand, we snuff the bastards. Problem solved!!
    Your Pal,
    Walt

  5. Jack Martin

    The governments will stop paying the pensions when the money runs low by just changing the law.

    The obligations to government employees is not the top priority when the well runs dry. These people will get real angry when this happens and the government will just wait them out as they slowly die.

    They are going to learn the hard way that having a sense of entitlement is very different than being actually entitled.

  6. Anonymous

    Bankruptcy of cities and states will eventually allow renegotiated contracts….same game as vs UAW or airline pilots

    Absurd and non-sustainable when gvt workers are paid more and have more lavish benefits (and job security) than similar-skill workers at major cos. like Exxon or IBM or Apple or J&J, let alone the gvt-employed clerk vs a WalMart or McD’s clerk

  7. Walt

    Think about this Dude Man. We are in the second Great Depression. If you doubt me, add up your last year’s commission checks. What you got? ZERO!!!!!
    So anyway, how did we get out of the last Great Depression? WWII. We made tanks and ships, take a few million heads off the planet, and whalla – the economy comes back.
    But who can we fight now? China? We could lose, so screw that.
    That is why nationalized healthcare is so important. It is the same as a war. Gives the Fed’s total control. Why do you think the Democrats are cramming it down so fast? Because they want to help us? They feel they have to, to avoid a total economic collapse.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/with-healthcare-democrats-commit-unprecedented-act-of-political-suicide-2009-12
    Want to go make some snow angels with me?
    Your Pal,
    Walt

  8. christopherfountain

    No, but I’ll stop by and pee on yours, if you’d like.

  9. Glug Glug in Greenwich

    Look at some countries in Europe right now.

    There’s a huge conflict between the public versus private for this reason. These fat-cat civil servants are getting golden handshakes and living the good life in vacation spots the world over.

    What kills me is getting phonecalls from the silver shield looking for donations for members hospitalizations when they have benefits I dont have or have to pay out of my pocket ($1000+ per month), and the monies I previously donated were used by one of their guys to travel and buy gifts for his spouse/girlfriend.. Call your buddies that you guys brown-nose backcountry for those ‘security/valet’ jobs etc etc

    The underfunding of pensions both private and public has been a disaster waiting to happen for a long time. I had a buddy high up in IBM pensions a few yrs ago tell me some harrowing tales – not specifically about IBM but the private pension area. And guess who guarantees those pensions?
    Das rite! You and me.

    Who cares, we’ll all be outta here before someone gets the bill. Panama is looking better and better every day.

    And this healthcare bill is nothing more than a red-herring that’s going to cost another zillion bucks while more and more people lose their jobs and homes.

    No wonder O Bama is bowing and scraping to the Chinese and Japanese…we haven’t the money to pay for this. Somebody has to stand up and tell these fools in Congress. BTW, dont even start me on Congressional pensions….

    I have to go take some Valium and lie down…

  10. Anonymous

    Another Intolerable Act.

    If the situation is not remedied to the satisfaction of taxpayers and the citizenry there will be massive civil conflict.

  11. Cos Cobber

    I said this many months ago. Right now, for the first time ever, if you are a government employee looking forward to a nice pension sometime past 20 years out from now, you should be a bit nervous. It doesn’t look like government will have the resources to pay for anything more than a basic pension. Something akin to glorified social security. There will be interesting court changes back and forth, but in the end, I think they will be looking at less benefits than they are being sold on today. Its the only way.

  12. whatever

    anonymous i am aware of all of the stupidity..thanks for your concern…i understand very well that we all go down…

    i am just the guy in the sub that was hunting for the red october….he said something like…”you killed us u fool”?

    that’s all

  13. Arouet

    Defined benefit pensions are being replaced by defined contribution all over corporate America in the older companies—newer companies never adopted defined benefit in the first place. Essentially moves market risk and reward from employer to employee. Should happen with public sector pension funds eventually—except that legislature won’t vote to replace DB with DC for their own self-interests.

    Underfunded epidemic in both sectors is a different (and scary) issue ….. Illustrates human tendency to play now and pay later on a very grand scale. Human beings generally, with few exceptions, really only pay lip service to quality of life for future generations (except our own offspring). Always has been that way.