Does anyone know what these numbers mean? Do Greenwich schools suck or not?

We’re at the bottom of the rankings for “demographically similar” districts around the state, but then there are vague references to our poorer children who may be bringing test results down. To me, “demographically similar” indicates that those factors are accounted for, but what do I know? Do any of you?

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8 responses to “Does anyone know what these numbers mean? Do Greenwich schools suck or not?

  1. Helsa Poppin

    The article says the factors determining demographic similarity including “median family income, the educational attainment of parents, and the percentages of students eligible for subsidized meals and who come from homes where English is not the only language spoken, among other considerations.”

    By this definition, Greenwich itself, a large and sprawling place, contains several demographically dissimilar areas. I’d be interested to see how, say, North Street or Parkway schools, considered individually, would have fared in these rankings.

  2. Old School Grump

    I think Helsa Poppin’s right; the devil is in the details of what they choose to define as “districts with similar socioeconomic situations.” When I left town ten+ years ago, there were nine elementary schools, and they ranged from one where 20 percent of the students had non-English speaking parents to one where the median house value was $1 million. I’m sure the extremes have gotten even more extreme since then. Is there really a comparable school district in the state? I don’t think so! Some sleight of hand is involved in formulating these comps.

  3. Here’s the info for your splicing/dicing pleasure…

    http://solutions1.emetric.net/cmtpublic/Index.aspx

    The results for the Greenwich public elementary school my kids attend were fantastic.

  4. Georgie in Greenwich

    Not being in real estate….all I can say is good luck to all those realtors having to attract young families to Greenwich based on our “outstanding school results.”

    Was it me, or did I just miss it that no school from Fairfield County made it in the top tier. What’s that about?

  5. grumpy

    “Demographically similar” is questionable. Few places encompass the diversity of Greenwich. Average income figures of public housing residents and movie stars/hedge funders do not give a realistic picture, for starters.

    Madison (population 20,000) vs. Greenwich (population 65,0000)?

    Try comparing Riverside or North Mianus to Madison. Very similar results.

    Greenwich Board of Ed does not like to break out individual school performance scores, as there is huge disparity. Downtown and Western Greenwich schools do not perform as well.

  6. public school alum

    The public schools at the elementary level are dependent on location. For middle schools, Western and Central can be fantastic if you are at the very top or very bottom because that is where all the resources go. Otherwise you’re probably better off at a private school. Eastern you are set till GHS.

  7. Georgie in Greenwich

    BTW, how does recent test scores reconcile with the other hot issue of the day of affordable housing. Our Superintendent is saying the low school test scores is greatly attributed to the high number of recent “economically disadvantaged” Greenwich residents. So, what happens when you add MORE of those poor….do we want them to live here but not go to our schools to continue to lower our school district test scores?

  8. George Crossman

    Greenwich spends about $8,000 per student per year in Riverside and about $21,000 per student per year in Byram (about 1/3 coming from the State or Feds). When the parents are behind their kid’s education the kids do better in school, hence Riverside, it’s less expensive to educate the kids. When the parents are slack, the kids don’t do as well, hence Byram. No amount of money will make up for that. If you compare Riverside (or OG) real estate to Byram the results speak for themselves.