Oh for Christ’s sake

A penalty for not bringing your own shopping bags to the supermarket?

On a full shopping day, I might have fifteen bags of groceries – I’m supposed to have that many bags at hand, and cart them into the supermarket? Worse,”they” have already made us tie up our newspaper unless placed in a paper bag, now they want to ban those. My own inclination is “screw you”.

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31 responses to “Oh for Christ’s sake

  1. Demmerkrat Patriot

    The US Recyclable String Association is behind this!

    Another stupid idea …. legislation with no possible means of enforcement.

  2. Last Liberal Standing

    I’m tellin ya, we’d be better off livin in China. Or Cambodia. Or Cuba, si?

  3. Yes, you ARE supposed to have your bags and cart them into the store. The bags I use flatten and fold into each other neatly so you only carry in “one” bag; plus, each bag holds ten times as much as any paper or plastic bag so your lugging could be reduced to six if you buy and use these:

    http://www.reuseit.com/store/reuseit%E2%84%A2-earthtote-original-p-10.html

  4. So Greenwich

    Absolutely support this! I cart my bags to and from grocery all the time. I see no reason why anyone needs those ugly plastic bags. On the same point, I read my news electronically and when I have newspapers (to get the RE sections only), I would be more supportive of putting them in the recycling bin not in a bag. Agree w/ tying them up as I’d hate to see my neighbors news blowing all over the street. Think of your kids, your kids’ kids…..enough w/ the grocery bags!

  5. anonymous2

    Every time I go to ShopRite and see one of these terribly earnest and over-indoctrinated women drag out a glob of filthy reusable shopping bags I’m reminded of the mid 1980s when I was trying to extricate my wife from the grips of the USSR. Whenever I was in Moscow I would accompany her on a search for food, complete, of course with used bags as the Soviet economy couldn’t produce shopping bags. Back in the USSR..oh, how happy we are! Are they next going to start giving us change in chocolate bars?

  6. Burning Madolf

    I use my own bags (called Cart Caddy) and use Stop and Shop’s hand held bar code reader and self check out. S&S allows me to deduct $.05 for every bag I don’t use. I could claim that I don’t use 10 but I keep it at about 2.

    This fee is just another tax, like the bottle bill. If gutless pols wanted to do something for real, they could outlaw non-biodegradable bags/petroleum bi-products.

  7. Greg

    I can’t wait to re-use those cloth grocery bags after the first time after they come home soaked in “juice” leaking from a package of hamburger or chicken.

  8. So Greenwich

    Dear Anonymous 2, I wash my bags. Guess I am really overindoctrinated and earnest!

  9. Gwichy

    Since we have no Republican Governor to veto this, get used to this and many more ridiculous taxes and regulations. Don’t these people have better things to do? How about cutting spending before whipping up more taxes?

    This will of course hit the poor hardest, the rich and middle class likely either don’t care or already have their eco-friendly bags (I know I do).

  10. OG mom

    People on food stamps are exempt…40 million people… Wonder who else will be exempt… Poor people dont pay, rich people dont care.. Another tax on middle class…

  11. bc

    Lived in London in the 60’s. Few supermarkets; went to the fishmonger, the bakery, the poulterer, the butcher and the shop that sold canned goods. Eac h gave you a little paper bag. Solution string bag that squished up in your purse.Totally expandable and breatheable. Topped off with veggies from the barrow boy.

  12. Cos Cobber

    CF, how does the state audit the bag tax? seriously, its ripe for fraud.

  13. Cos Cobber

    You see, the bag tax would have to completely rely on the honor system, whereas the bottle tax has a concentration of beverage makers of which can be required to report their bottle sales in the state in order to cross check the tax collection with bottle sales. Cant do that with bags; to many stores, too many bag makers and too many bags…no?

  14. Greenwich Gal

    Get over it, CF! Bring your old paper bags, buy some canvas ones from LLBean, whatever – we have enough of those awful plastic bags flying around! Are we supposed to just continue to have years and years and billions of bags in landfills? What a waste! I thought you being an outdoorsman and all would appreciate this at the very least!

  15. Anon1

    I support a requirement to bring our own bags for groceries. Much of Europe already requires reusable bags or charges for a bag.

  16. Retired IB'er

    We re-use the plastic bags for garbage… which makes it no different for the environment than the big garbage bags… or are we going to tax those as well next… just saying.

  17. peeps

    I’m an eco-minded person, but still take the plastic bags. Why? Because I bought nifty little trash cans that have indents in them to hold the supermarket and drug store plastic bags. I got them at the Container Store.
    If you don’t take plastic bags, then I think you have to specially buy kitchen garbage bags. Doesn’t one action erase the other?

  18. Wandering Through

    Food for thought.

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/12/study-shows-reusable-bags-contain-high-levels-of-lead-content/

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/86/302/Health_Threat:_Reusable_Grocery_Bags_Are_Breeding_Ground_for_E_Coli,_Salmonella_and_Other_Dangerous_Bacteria_Say_Scientists.html

    Personally speaking, I’ll take my chances with the plastic or paper bags that I know will break down a lot easier in landfills and I can use for other things than use the mainly Chinese manufactured “re-usable” ones that contain heavy lead and other contaminants. When they are eventually replaced with new ones and thrown away (and they will be), they’ll still be trash eventually.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. To each his own. Pick your poison..literally. Everyday there’s something new that will kill us anyway.

    Since the government has pulled all the toys made in China for containing toxic levels of lead, even from garage sales, then why are the bags (made mostly in China) with lead and made to carry our food, any less dangerous and okay for the public to use?

  19. shelton1904

    I reuse the bags as well for other uses.

  20. OG MOM

    “tax on the middle class”

    Guess what sister, if you are an OG Mom, you ain’t the middle class….even if you live in NOPO!

  21. pulled up in OG

    What’s really annoying is that friggin’ plastic clamshell packaging that’s used on more and more these days. Pain in the ass just to slice a piece of cake.

  22. anonymous2

    Gee, I wonder if So Greenwich has really analyzed this all the way through: environmental “cost” of making the reusable bags and their eventual disposal, environmental cost the clean water to wash them, cost of making the detergent, cost of the electricity to run the washer, environmental cost of the dryer..it goes on and on. Aside from the fascism of the whole thing there might be a teeny weeny environmental problem, just like ethanol and hybrid cars. …so correct, but so dirty…so Greenwich!

  23. Greenwich Gal

    Aw, C’mon Greta Garbo, I mean CF, if you really wanted to be “left alone” you would not be writing this damn blog, would ya?

  24. sw

    Here in San Francisco only “large” retail stores (ie Safeway) were forced to eliminat plastic bags a couple years ago.. the joke is we live in a city and many people, particularly the elderly, walk to and from the store or take the bus.. Ever try and carry a PAPER bag in the pouring rain..?! It’s a terrible sight to see someone trying to get groceries home in a wet paper bags. Also, many people (including me) live a few flights up from the street and you simply cannot carry as many paper bags as the plastic ones.. so it means several trips up and down (good exercise for me.. not so good for someone who can’t make the up and down trek). The other thing is.. I used to use the plastic bags I got at the grocery store to line my smaller cans throughout the house… now I just BUY small plastic bags, at Safeway of course … ; )

  25. Lorin Hart

    The cloth bags made in China have lead in them….

  26. Lorin Hart

    oh someone else pointed that out,….

  27. LLS2

    if you want to help out the environment.

    go veggie !

    factory farms are probably the single biggest polluters. not to mention they make unhealthy product for the most part.

    i am all for recycled bags too.

  28. Anon

    It would seem based on the CT DEP web site that a large majority of MSW (municipal solid waste) is either incinerated or recycled. The tons of plastic bags littering landfills for hundreds of years seems to be an exaggeration.
    I’m not sure what all you cloth bag people are really accomplishing?

    “The MSW which is not recycled or composted (or kept out of the wastestream through home composting and grasscycling – leaving grassclippings on the lawn), is incinerated at one of 6 waste-to-energy facilities located in Hartford, Bristol, Bridgeport, Wallingford, Preston and Lisbon. The energy produced is sold to electric utility companies. The resource recovery process reduces the weight of the refuse by 75%. The resulting ash is landfilled. In 2002-03, 64.4% of our MSW trash was incinerated; 4% was landfilled in Connecticut; 8% went out-of-state; and 24% was recycled. ”

    http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?A=2714&Q=324892

  29. peeps

    Although this belongs as a comment on the CFL article, too much time has passed, so it’s not on page 2 and most people don’t read that. Anyway, today I read a police report for a local town and it seems that a fire started because a CFL was used in a fixture that uses a dimmer switch. Apparently, you’re not supposed to.