Government Motors shocks it to taxpayers

Manages to sell 1,500 Volts in December, its best volume yet but also proof of the insignificance of the electric car to our national energy needs. Who, other than municipal governments spending other people’s money, would buy this abortion? It takes 8 hours to refuel – try that one at your neighborhood gas station – costs $40,000, even after we taxpayers pitch in a $7,000 subsidy and it doesn’t work in cold weather – well it will, but only if you’re willing to forego cabin heat and a defroster so that the battery will last long enough to get you home. This is the future Obummer has promised and is now delivering.

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  1. Yet the proggies continue to push these wildly inefficient go-carts as the future of transportation.

    Can someone please pull their heads from their rectums.

  2. AJ

    The Volt is a joke, but the mid-90s GM EV1 with its NIMH ovonic (not lithium)was no joke and that’s why they killed it. The car was capable of 148 miles between charges– more than enough for most peoples commuting needs– cost less to install than a gas powered motor, and the batteries were capable of lasting the life of the car– a disaster for conventional technology. And that’s why they killed it– more than killed it, they crushed every single existing car. This car could truly eliminate most people’s need for the purchase of gasoline. See the movie: Who killed the Electric Car, or watch this breif video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J5f9x_RfHI . GM, who purchased the right to the batteries, sold them to an oil company that made sure the technology will stay buried forever, much like the auto companies bought up all the trolley lines and had them dismantled. All this talk about developing lithium batteries is nonsense; an inexpensive, effective battery has been available for years. Too bad you can’t have one.

    • Aw, Aj, come on, that story is as old as the automobile itself. It used to be a carburetor that yielded 100 mpg but was bought out by the (unspecified’ “oil companies” and the technology destroyed, then it was the destruction of the street cars by GM, and so on. Just because a tale is old doesn’t make it true.

  3. nick

    What happened to all the Volts G.E’s Chief promisied to buy? 50,000 of them.

  4. Artist

    Ultra Capacitor, not battery, is the way of future.

    http://www.treehugger.com/cars/ultracapacitor-buses-work-as-long-as-you-have-lots-of-quick-charge-stations.html

    “Sinautec’s forty-one seat Ultracap Buses have been serving the Greater Shanghai area since 2006 without any major technical problems. They claim that even if they were powered by the dirtiest coal plants around, these buses would still emit 1/3 of the CO2 that diesel would emit (and even less with cleaner electricity, of course).”

  5. Daniel

    Where there is smoke…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

    I also believe people like the freedom of personal cars and contributed.

    • In fact, Daniel, the Wikipedia article does a pretty good job of refuting the claim. As an aside, any paper written by a Harvard law student working for Ralph Nader is, by definition, unreliable crap, twice over.

  6. Cobra

    Screw this electric car sh*t. Give me a a good old 427 side oiler with medium riser heads and a top loader, anytime!!

  7. nick

    AMEN DANIEL!

  8. Daniel

    Chris, as you may know, I live in the Los Angeles area and can tell you the right of ways the Red Cars had were really good. They are now gone and the patchwork light rail they are now putting in just doesn’t go anywhere. Lots of political stuff happens out here that should make our leaders blush, but they don’t.

  9. AJ

    CF, I’m no greenie; more like a no replacement for displacement, massive horsepower, feel the g-forces when you step on the gas kind of a guy, and I don’t believe that CO2 is a pollutant, but more a sustainer of life. But I sure would like to see the return of ten dollar a barrel oil (it wasn’t that long ago that twenty-four dollars a barrel was considered a high price), as would my two gas guzzling custom-rebuild, turbocharged cars and that offshore raceboat that spends all its time sitting in my backyard. My poor skis would like to spend more time on the hill without having to spend 100 bucks to get there and back –okay, there’s good skiing ten miles down the road but I do like to go other places– and if the greenies by consuming less gas, can help me do that by buying electric cars, that’s fine with me. Besides I don’t know how to fix batteries, only how to replace them, and electrical problems are my least favorite thing. Yes, the trolley car thing is an old story, but I didn’t hear it , I saw it on more than one documentary on TV and just took it for granted that that’s what happened. But after your post I decided to look it up.

    Its seems there’s pro and con conspiracy theory websites for either side of the argument, but here’s one that seems to offer some concrete “facts”, i.e., names, dates, fines: http://old.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id431/pg1/

    The following is a brief excerpt from that webpage: In 1949, GM, Firestone, Standard Oil, Phillips Petroleum, and Mack Trucks were all found guilty of violating anti-trusts laws, in a conspiracy to kill off the trolleys. They were all fined US$5,000, and the various corporate heads were fined US$1 (one dollar) each. This wasn’t even a slap on the wrist, much less a real message to cease their evil ways.

    I don’t know anything about 100 mpg carbs, but I have seen the commercial where they hold a bottle upside down and blub, blub out pours the liquid, so slowly. But give the bottle a little spin so the liquid spins as it would going down a drain, and just watch the liquid come rushing out. Good demo, bad science: unlike the throttle body on your car– carbs are rare these days– the soda bottle has no open induction end. Apparently, they sold a lot of those things– I can’t believe anybody fell for that old carney trick.

    Again, with the EV1 and the film “Who killed the electric car”, it’s just another documentary I saw on TV, but the cars were real and the owners seemed quite happy with them, and they were the ones making the
    mileage claims, not the promoters of the cars. And it was not some oil company but Texaco which was purchased by Chevron which now controls the patents. The NiMH batteries were also available in the Toyota RAV4-EV; again their owners offered nothing but praise. According to this site:
    http://ev1.org/chevron.htm , when Panasonic tried to import NiMH batteries into America for existing RAV4s they were sued and lost $30,000,000. That sounds to me like a company that’s serious about protecting its patents, ones that they clearly hold not to make money on but to suppress technology that might be a thorn in their side. Though some RAV4s still exist they are effectively dead because you can’t get replacement
    batteries; the EV1s were leased, and that’s how they were able to destroy all of them.

    The idea that a company would buy then destroy its competitors is nothing new. Cornelius Vanderbuilt and John D. Rockefeller were masters in the fine art of taking extreme measures to destroy the competition, and I’m sure the idea of destroying the competition is as old as business itself. The carbon credit exchange was developed by Ken Lay, Bernie Madoff, and Al Gore, so you know its a scam. The fact that they just found 5,000 year old artifacts under recently melted ice, and the 4,500 year old man that they uncovered from under recently melted ice in 1991 means that 4,500 to 5,000 years ago the earth was warmer than it is today. Must have been all those Flintstone-mobiles. With ol’ Kenny Boy gone from a “heart attack” and
    Uncle Bernie doing life for the same crime that just about every investment bank committed, that leaves just Academy Award winning, Nobel Prize recipient Al Gore to lead us into the new world order of UN controlled
    one world government under the guise of carbon credits in the name of saving the planet. Hallelujah!

  10. Anonymous

    Shocker. News from last September: GM to move EV development to China.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/09/gm-cuts-china-electric-car-deal—-a-china-shakedown/1

    I don’t think I even recognize this country any longer. :(

    P.S. GM also killed Saab a few weeks back with little fanfare.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/19/us-saab-idUSTRE7BI1EW20111219