Obama: lock up autistic children and throw away the key

And these will really bring safety and certainty to the world? It's a deal!

And these will really bring safety and certainty to the world? It’s a deal!

Revelation that the Newtown shooter had been diagnosed as  autistic has spurred a nationwide call for the immediate incarceration of all such children. Although some psychiatrists oppose this, pointing out that the vast majority of autistics are peaceful, law abiding people,  the harm done when a good kid goes bad is simply too great to risk leaving them free. Something must be done, our president said last night, even if it is only symbolic.

We can’t tolerate this anymore.  These tragedies must end.  And to end them, we must change.  We will be told that the causes of such violence are complex, and that is true.  No single law — no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world, or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society.

But that can’t be an excuse for inaction.  Surely, we can do better than this.  If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief that has visited Tucson, and Aurora, and Oak Creek, and Newtown, and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that — then surely we have an obligation to try.

The battle cry of the politician and his ilk that they use to justify whatever new law they’re proposing, another freedom to be stripped away: “if it saves the life of one child …”. Our existing laws against murder, creating  risk of injury to a minor, assault, battery, unlicensed gun possession in public and carrying a weapon into a school all failed to prevent this horror. I love my children – most of us love our children. Using that love and concern for their safety as a pry bar to grab more control over the populace is cynical and, really, despicable.

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27 responses to “Obama: lock up autistic children and throw away the key

  1. Anonymous

    Maybe Obama should focus on treating the mentally ill. How does our healthcare system allow those afflicted with such a disease to just fall through the cracks.

    Nah, just blame the guns instead.

  2. 3g

    Gun control debate will provide a great smoke screen for the politicians. Take our minds off Benghazi and the fiscal problems of the nation.

  3. Anon

    The New York Times is playing right into Obama’s hand by keeping up overnight and into this morning the headline “things must change”. NBC talks about nothing else than gun and ammo control. ABC is gearing up for a weeklong series called Solutions. Somewhere I saw a great photo of Chuck Schumer at a target practice shooting aTech 9 assault pistol. It’s an old post on an ammo blog from July 2012. I am at work and dare not search “Schumer shooting” for fear of being fired. Find it. It’s a good photo. Go find it.

    • The NYT and the rest of the major media aren’t “playing into Obama’s hand”, they are Obama’s hand, as the past two elections proved. I’ll go look for that picture.

  4. Al Dente

    Why does he mention every shooting in the last several years – except Ft Hood?

  5. Brown Eyed Girl

    Quick, name three female rampage shooters. Okay, two.

  6. Anonymous

    From a friend in Alabama:
    Years ago there was a very good PBS series called “Connections”. In one episode they followed a chain of connections that showed that the with of a Shuttle’s SRB was determined by the width of two Horse’s “posteriors”.

    http://middlezonemusings.com/1456/of-horses-rears-railroads-and-space-shuttles/

    At the last meeting of the SDS that Bill Ayers was allowed to attend he advocated that the SDS make plans to become more violent. His argument was that until American families saw their children murdered in a similar fashion to South Vietnamese children being murdered by American forces, they would never truly understand the Vietnam War or support SDS’s effort to get the fighting stopped. His suggection was that SDS begin targeted bombings of American elementary schools. The short story is that, as a result of the horror felt by the rest the organization at his suggestion, his faction was expelled from SDS and and went on to form Weather Underground. Needless to say Mr. Ayers didn’t get to commit his chain of school bombings. If he had, this week’s shootings in Newtown, CT. would not have made anywhere near the impact on the public that they have.

    Fast foreward a few years and you find Barak Obama starting his first political campaign event: a fundraiser in the living room of… Bill Ayers.

    So….

    Is there any connection between the current POTUS and a former bomb throwing anarchist who advocated the murder of American school children and the internment (and murder) of 25 million Americans in re-education camps?

    Of course there is.

    What is that connection? And does it shed any light on things like Fast and Furious, Benghazi, or recent mass shootings in America?

    I don’t know. And it’s for sure the press isn’t going to find it for us if it does exist.

    Such a connection certainly wouldn’t be any harder to believe than the connection between an SRB and the width of two horses’ butts.

  7. anonymous

    We do not know what led to the tragedy in Newtown nor may we never know. What I do know is America woke up and is finally talking about the changes our world needs.

    I know that our children and adults with developmental disabilities are no more prone to violence then their typical peers. I do know they are more likely to be bullied. I do know they are more likely to suffer from anxiety and depression due to the struggles they face daily in a world that does not understand them. I know that we, as a country, don’t know enough about developmental disabilities. I know the treatments, therapies and services we do have are not affordable or accessible enough to most families. I know that schools and insurance deny so much of what these children and adults need because of the cost and so many of them do not get the services that they require.

    I know that these precious people with disabilities can suffer from psychological illnesses, just like their peers, and that the treatment of those problems is complicated and we don’t know enough yet to help them in the way we should. I also know that help is not affordable or accessible to many. I know this has to change.

    I know children and adults across this country suffer with psychological illness everyday. I know they are more likely to be bullied because they are different. I know they often feel isolated and helpless. I know that our world is failing them. I know we do not know enough about their illnesses or how to treat them. I know the care, treatment, and help that we do have, that they need is not affordable or accessible to many. I know programs, residential schools and residential facilities that can start to help but they have waiting lists, they are very expensive and not accessible. School systems and insurance don’t want to pay for them and most families cannot afford them. and I know these children and adults are treated differently by many because of our ignorance of their problems and that saddens me.

    I know children and adults without any diagnosed problems, developmental or psychological, can commit acts of violence. I know we don’t know enough about the “whys”, I know we don’t know how to help prevent some of the violence from occurring and I know that scares me.

    I know the survivors of Newtown – the families of those lost, their friends, the children in that school and their families, will never be the same. They will have good days and bad days. Good years and bad years. Their needs may very well last a lifetime. I don’t know if the treatment, therapy and care they need 10 or 20 years from now be available, affordable and accessible but I know it needs to be.

    I know that our world is failing our people. I know need change. I know we need better understanding and care of developmental disabilities, better understanding and care of psychological illnesses, and better understanding and prevention of violence. I know we need change.

  8. AJ

    From the Oath Keepers:
    The Federal Government is Guilty Accomplice in School Shooting in Newtown Connecticut
    ….
    This shooting is yet another tragic example of the failed, grotesque insistence on helpless victim zones where any crazed gunman can be assured of a large number of disarmed, undefended, helpless victims, all crammed into one place, where he can kill many children before an armed defender arrives from elsewhere. It is disturbing and sick that the federal government so hates the right of the American people to bear arms, and so hates their natural right to self defense, that the government insists on making them helpless, disarmed victims for anyone who cares to kill them. And in this case, all of the teachers and staff were willfully disarmed by the Federal Government, by force of law and threat of prison, to ensure that they would be disarmed and incapable of saving the lives of the children entrusted to their care.

    That makes the Federal Government complicit in the deaths of these children, and in fact an accessory to their mass murder, by forcibly disarming (with the very real threat of prison) all the teachers, all the staff, and any parent who may have been on school property. That stupid law guaranteed the shooters would meet no immediate armed resistance, which is exactly what is needed to stop such an attack.

    In such a shooting (as in every criminal attack), seconds count, and the people best positioned to stop the attack are the people on the scene – the intended victims and/or their care-takers. In this case, that would mean the teachers and staff of the school who were responsible for the well-being of those children, and also the parents, who should have the ability to save the lives of their own children as they take them to and from school.

    The police cannot, and do not arrive in time to stop such shooters from killing large numbers of people. They are a slow reactive force compared to an armed citizen on the scene. This should be common sense, as it is obvious that in the immediacy of a criminal attack, it is the intended victims (or their immediate care-takers) who are there, in position to put a stop to the attack, if they are capable. And being capable means being armed, trained, willing, and able to use deadly force, right then, right there. Anything less leads to what we saw here…

    http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/12/14/the-federal-government-is-guilty-accomplice-in-school-shooting-in-newtown-connecticut/

  9. Anonymous

    no easy access to guns and we aren’t having this conversation

    this only happens in america

      • Anonymous

        and that was OK with you ?

      • Anonymous

        drunk driving kills too , should we make that legal because people are always going to be doing it anyway … ??

        • AJ

          Anon, that is a non sequitur (does not follow) if there ever was one: you have confused the criminal with the weapon. If we were to follow your logic you’d have us believing that two plus two equals five. As with drunk driving, murder has always been illegal, too; and in your argument you imply that murder is legal, which it’s not.

          I think the argument you’re trying to make is that drunk driving kills, so should we outlaw cars? Or is it that since guns are legal, why don’t we legalize murder?

          But then there are so many ways and so many household items you can use to kill people. You could even just drive your car up on the sidewalk and randomly point it at people and run them down. Why not make everything illegal and put everyone under 24 hour surveillance. Or maybe, we could end the Drug War and take those trillions of dollars wasted and use it, amongst many other things, to put extra cops on the street (protect and serve cops, not enemy of the people cops that the drug war has created).

        • Babylon Sister

          That’s every pro-choicer’s argument against the illegalization of abortion – if you make it illegal, people are still going to do it anyway – in back alleys, using “unsafe” methods. Therefore, “keep it legal so that we can at least tax and regulate it.”

          These are generally the same folks who want to ban guns. I’ve never understood their conviction that the “people are going to do it anyway” argument applies to abortion but doesn’t apply to firearms.

          The black market is a very lucrative industry, even in first-world nations. Criminals, by definition, will always disregard rule of law to achieve their ends.

          As a single, 130 lb woman living in a city with a very high crime rate, I appreciate having a means to defend myself (other than pepper spray and my bare hands).

          Al Dente – good mention of Ft Hood. If an entire mass of unarmed US Soldiers trained in hand-to-hand combat couldn’t defend themselves against a lone gunman in a “gun free” zone (as most military bases are) … who can?

          It’s a highly emotional issue, especially in the raw wake of recent devasations. But, just like with any other legislative measures, we must ask “who and what will this actually effect, and how?”

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget Mexico. Eric Holder gave Mexican criminals a lot of guns.

  10. Anonymous2

    Commenters here might note that after several high profile cases in the UK where homeowners were arrested after using guns to defend themselves and their families from home invasions British courts have begun to turn back overly onerous firearm restrictions.

  11. KTCT

    How many of you posting here dropped off a child at an elementary school this morning? I did….and it was difficult. I don’t know the answer, the cure to what ails us as a society, but I sure wish I did.

  12. Libertarian Advocate

    KTCT:

    There are no easy answers, only difficult ones, but what’s clear is that our society is a whole lot less civil with the diminution of religion (mostly by those who rail against firearms). But the entertainment industry is a PRIME source of the scourge as well, and not just the extremely violent video game publishers, but also the film producers who buy violence heavy scripts and the actors who happily take the multi-million dollar roles, then spout off deploring the very gun violence they glorify and promote, and who, when challenged, claim it’s their right of “artistic expression”. They are all the worst kinds of hypocrites. Oh, yeah and the Gang-banger worshipping rappers too as well as their producers.