Starting with former Greenwich resident Roseanne

But my children are too special to leave them unprotected!

But my children are too special to leave them unprotected!

Celebrities and politicians demanding unilateral disarmament should set an example by disbanding their bodyguard teams. Mayor Koch? Rupert Murdoch? We’re waiting.  And Hollywood: stop making violent movies!

Back in the 1950s comic books were blamed for the violence and mayhem on our streets.  In the 1980s, laws mandating bicycle helmets and booster seats were going to save our children from harm. Now banning guns is said to be the panacea, but the universe doesn’t work the way fearful meddlers wish it would. It just doesn’t. Ask any priest.

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15 responses to “Starting with former Greenwich resident Roseanne

  1. greenwich dude

    btw, i like a good political food fight like everyone else, but i’m pretty sure that bicycle helmets and booster seats work, as did seatbelts before them. before we reach to ideology, we should look at the data, in my view. some of these things are actually good things, you know?

    • Just because something is a good idea doesn’t necessarily mean that a law should be passed requiring everyone to do it – imagine te outcry, for instance, if we forbade people from voting for Democrats!

  2. AAnon

    Wrong nutjob- you are thinking of Rosie O’Donnell

  3. Al Dente

    The reason politicians never implement any real reform, but do pass insane spending laws, is because they know they’ll be long dead before the effects are felt. To hell with their grandchildren. Selfish bastards.
    It would take 1,000 years to get rid of guns.

  4. GreenITCH

    I think in this day and age … for teenagers etc .. more so the Video games that are outrageosuly violent and should draw some attention here … just my two cents

    • Like so-called “stranger abductions”, horrible events like Friday’s are not the norm, and needn’t be blamed on wicked movies (1920-1950 ban), bad comic books, violent TV shows/movies or today, video games. There will always be evil people, period.

      THE FACTS ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS:

      Mass shootings are no more common than they have been in past decades, despite the impression given by the media.

      In fact, the high point for mass killings in the U.S. was 1929, according to criminologist Grant Duwe of the Minnesota Department of Corrections. . . .

      With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.

      • Libertarian Advocate

        With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.

        Yes that is correct and the reason the perps select those gun free zone locations is because it is highly improbable that will be confronted by a legally armed citizen who will far more often than not obey no carry laws in public buildings and proscriptions on private property. They are smart enough and coherent enough to know to pick a soft target rich environment. They also tend take themselves out at the first sign of armed challenge.

        I addressed this here the other day in regard to the very recent case of the Clackamas Town Center Mall shooter who turned his gun on himself after he noticed a legally armed citizen draw down on him but who did not ultimately fire apparently due to innocents moving across the line of fire and behind the shooter.

        • AJ

          LA, Your above, “…Mall shooter who turned his gun on himself after he noticed a legally armed citizen draw down on him but who did not ultimately fire apparently due to innocents moving across the line of fire and behind the shooter”, illustrates a good point that the anti-you-have-the-right-to-defend-yourself types — aka, anti-gun, anti-second amendment (Bill of Rights) — always seem to miss; and that is that the gun is the great “equalizer” as Colt called his gun: “God made men, but Sam Colt made them equal,” the saying goes.

          What that means is that you don’t have to start shooting to put an end to violence (that’s why they issue guns to police): the gun just has to make its presence known.

          The depth of this misunderstanding is beautifully illustrated in pulled up in OG’s comment under the posting “And the circus begins”, which is just one of many of this type appearing on the web:

          [“Another would be mass shooting ended early by an armed citizen.”

          Dubious, to say the least.
          Never mind the claim of “another”. : )

          “Meli [your boy] took cover inside a nearby store. He never pulled the trigger.”]

          It seems that the anti-gun types are upset that Meli had a weapon, but even more upset that he didn’t use it (there’s something they could have run wild with). Unlike police who can shoot with impunity, armed citizens must carefully weigh the consequences of their actions, something some police (not all) don’t seem to bother with: ‘NYPD: 9 shooting bystander victims hit by police gunfire’ — talk about a trigger happy freak out.

          http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25/nypd-shooting-bystander-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire/

          More responsibly armed citizens, and the elimination of “gun-free zones” are the answer.

  5. young mom

    It isn’t the violent implements that are the cause but the tool. (movies, comic books, games even guns) But, the lack of socialization that we have created. No one talks anymore. No one debates anymore. There is a myopic sense of i”m right your wrong and now I’m offended by our disagreement and must take action. What do we teach our kids by being too busy to listen, allowing them to live in virtual realities (facebook), give value to material objects?? Guns and other objects aren’t the cause they have SQUEEZED in because there is a big hole in human interaction. We have lost moral regard for others and differences and creative solutions. Also, the concept of being PC as to not offend. This has fostered poor interactions too which makes for the same results. Therefore, never delving into resolution and coexisting. Society and culture is a garden that needs consistent and thorough care in order for it flourish. Otherwise, weeds will grow and take over. Just pulling weeds will not make the garden grow.

  6. Central Gwich

    It would just be so much easier to have an armed police officer who is screened physically, psychologically and trained to deal with youths in a positive way. I can’t see the downside, besides more wisely spent taxpayer dollars. No arts palace, no “fire boat,” but more security, and instruction for kids to make good, civically responsible decisions.

    • AJ

      “No arts palace, no “fire boat,” but more security, and instruction for kids to make good, civically responsible decisions.”

      The fire boat was free, and if they don’t use it and just keep it parked in their driveway as a good thing to sit in and drink beer, it won’t cost anything — I’d take it for free. The Arts Palace — oh, dreams of ancient Athens — as Nancy Reagan would say — just say no!

      But to think that you could teach kids to make good, civically responsible decisions? For that you’d have to bring to an end the Hegelian Dialectic while bringing back critical thinking at the same time. And that would require, at the very least, some sort of quantum leap.

      Free download of Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt’s “Deliberate Dumbing Down of America”. Here: http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

      Try also: “Against School How public education cripples our kids, and why”
      by John Taylor Gatto: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/gatto1.1.1.html

      Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt:

      • Babylon Sister

        Thanks for posting these links AJ.

        I had to look up “Hegelian Dialectic” – even after the handful of Marxists and Social Democrats I’ve had for teachers and professors since high school, it’s not a familiar concept. Nevertheless, in college I could recite Howard Zinn and Richard Hofstadter verbatim, and that’s how I kept my GPA up.

        Education in the US, at all levels, has essentially evolved into indoctrination.

  7. AJ

    You’ve got Roseanne Barr all wrong; don’t mess with her, she just might blow your f-ing head off: Roseanne Barr – Pro 2nd Amendment…”Hell Ya I Have Guns” :

  8. Mr. Independent

    I agree with Mayor Mike here. He was not opposing gun ownership in general, just proposing common sense.

    I have been shooting since Boy Scouts, If it were up to me, no one could own a gun before both extensive background checks (including at gun shows) and taking a safety course. Assault weapons would be left to the military, police and professional bodyguards. Why such regulation threatens the 2nd amendment is beyond me. Of course, between liberal do-gooders wanting to end Ray Kelly’s sensible policing and the NRA wanting everyone carrying AK-47’s for protection. NYC could become Chicago or Detroit.To me, freedom is being able to go anywhere without fear of being a crime victim, and not needing to carry a gun to do so.

    Most of my friends who are serious hunters only go on private lands, They do not want to be in the woods with the untrained idiots who call themselves hunters these days. The thought of the average person being allowed to carry guns in public is what truly frightens them and me.