Okay, we’ve banned guns – what’s next?

Hmmm, no gun in that shower, is there?

Hmmm, no gun in that shower, is there?

In England, it’s long kitchen knives. Reader Greenitch sent this link and I assumed it was a parody. It is not; although the proposal is from May, 2005, England has gone ahead and banned most knives, without any great beneficial effect.

A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase – and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault – but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

Knife wound

Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like “cutting into a ripe melon”.

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

“The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

“We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect.”

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

“The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

“Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

“An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

“The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives.”

So how’s that worked out? Not as well as you might think

Violent crimes haven’t gone away with the UK’s gun control. They’ve actually gone up.

Britons suffer 1,158,957 violent crimes per year, which works out at 2,034 per 100,000 residents. The U.S., meanwhile, has a rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, which is lower than France’s, at 504

The UK outlawed the switchblade and gravity knife in 1959.

In 1988 possession of a pocket knife with a blade larger than 3 inches in public became illegal.

In 1996, it became illegal to sell a razor blade to anyone under the age of 16.

In 2007, you needed a license to be able to sell “non-domestic knives.”

Despite all that knifepoint robberies rose by 10 percent this year and there are some 60,000 stabbings each year.  

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14 responses to “Okay, we’ve banned guns – what’s next?

  1. Mark B.

    Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Piers.

    • Mark B.

      Plus, this is déjà vu for me… Some time ago, at the end of an essay in which I listed all the other stuff we should ban if we’re going to ban “assault rifles” (whatever that is), I wrote:
          “Somebody clearly needs to regulate this things, but before you do, I suggest you go to your kitchen and saw off your butcher knives to a reasonable length and round off the tips, in case they fall into the wrong hands.”
      I thought, at the time, I had achieved a pretty high level of absurdity…

    • Steve

      Found at 2ndAmendmentDebate.com
      Ma’am,

      I am an active duty United States Army soldier serving in the Global War on Terror and have spent 9 years as a member of Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta. Senator I have seen and done things that you have only loosely read about in a Senate briefing. You cannot imagine the sacrifices I have made on behalf of my country. To read about what you intend try and push through to law makes me question your patriotism as a sitting United States Senator.

      Like other soldiers who have written letters like this before me, let me inform you that should you find a way to make this the law of the land there is no way I will ever comply. Ma’am I was not in Newtown when the shooting that shocked the nation took place. I assure you if I was that Mr Lanza would never have gotten off a single shot. I do not deserve to be treated like a criminal by you and other anti-second amendment member of Government and will not tolerate it.

      I took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I never thought that it was possible that one day that oath would be tested by a knock at my door with a demand for my personal firearms. You are taking our country down a very destructive road.

      So while you sit in your comfortable office, attend lavish DC parties, I will continue to be on the front lines in defending this country against threats that never even see the light of single media coverage. Hopefully when my time is up, should I be lucky enough to see the day of my retirement, I hope that I may return to a home that is free from an overly intrusive government that insists on deciding what is right for me rather than me making my own decisions.

      Respectfully,

      A United States Special Forces Operator

  2. Anon

    Jeez, put a R-rated warning on this post. When I got to the slashed face, I almost lost my lunch. Gross.

    • Libertarian Advocate

      Anon: You are definitely in the wrong place if you can’t hold your lunch at THAT photo. God forbid you come across an image of a beheading committed by the president’s best buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood. There’ll be plenty of those on Current TV soon enough.

  3. D

    Amazing. Exactly what happens when people think you can legislate away your problems. A never ending spiral.

  4. Hate to admit it, however the Brits get dumber and dumber! My ancestors are twirling in their graves! Also, sad to say, we seem to be heading in the same direction!

    • David Smith

      For years liberals pointed to England’s “low crime rate”. In the last couple years someone figured out the Brits used a different statistical summation system than we do. They have NEVER had a lower crime rate. (although I’d rather live w their criminal element than the ones in most of the rest of the world).

  5. Walt

    Dude –
    How about banning gun shows?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-shows-in-connecticut-canceled-2013-1

    And gerbils. They almost killed Richard Gere from what I hear. And marriage. Do you have any idea how much domestic violence there is? Especially with those hot blooded Latino chicks. Think Lorenna Bobbit. That still makes my a hole pucker.

    Anyhows, Zerohedge has a post today that says it best:

    “The gun grabber personality is interminably flawed, but it could be summarized thus:
    They believe the whole of society should cater to their personal concerns. That we should give up our rights just to make them feel safer. And, that they are somehow a step above the rest of us, and do not need to practice what they preach. My question is, why should we go out of our way to please such weaklings and frauds? I have yet to hear a good reason…”

    Pretty well said, I think.
    Your Pal,
    Walt

    • Libertarian Advocate

      Walt: Seems to me “Tyler Durden” is describing a huge group of clinical narcissists. No wonder the shrinks de-classified narcissism as an mental illness, otherwise we’d have to lock up nearly the entirety of our political class. Come to think of it….

  6. David Smith

    There are many types of kitchen knife – for a reason. Like most tools none is absolutely essential, you could do everything w a paring knife if you were willing to spend the time and suffer the sore hands.

    The BIGGEST kitchen knives are for vegetables. The shape that makes them look so badass is so the chef can rock the blade on its end to make chopping vegetable faster and safer. The point is not lifted off the cutting board.