Journal News strikes another blow for crime

For the second time in a week, a home identified by Gannet’s Journal News has been ransacked by burglars and guns stolen.

Two handguns and two pistol permits were stolen from the New City home of a man whose name and address are listed on the website of a local newspaper as possessing gun permits, police said.

The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home’s third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

While Clarkstown police said that, as of this stage in the investigation they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map, Gannet’s Janet Hasson (3 Gate House Lane, Mamaroneck, NY) was not so reticent to claim credit. “This is exactly why we published that map”, she crowed excitedly. “Only criminals and sickos have guns, and we’ve now proved that by placing these weapons into their hands. Oooh, I just know there’s a Pulitzer here!”

"We're sooo proud of ourselves!"

“We’re so proud.”

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23 responses to “Journal News strikes another blow for crime

  1. Cos Cobber

    wonderful. every criminal prefers a stolen gun and stolen car to do their deeds. thank you janet. we all really feel safer now.

  2. Fred2

    There’s a bunch of guys running around asking if they can place a “proudly gun free” lawn sign in front the homes of people like those that published that map who are, and SHOCKINGLY, most of them demure.

    Who would have thunk?

    That being said, this doesn’t (yet) constitute a trend – two houses out of hundreds – but it won’t take long before it is. When it does, oh lawyerly sages, would those people who’ve been robbed have a case for a class action? Or would the fact that the data was theoretically public domain beforehand, even if somewhat difficult to access to the typical moron criminal, preclude that sort of legal counter-fu?

  3. Libertarian Advocate

    There’s an old saying among lawyers that “you can indict a ham sandwich”. Filing a law suit is similar. Whether you can get the suit past a motion to dismiss or a summary judgment motion is a different story.

    I’m no expert on Class Actions, but I suppose its possible to prevail against the Journal News in that arena. The heartless lawyer in me thinks that a more successful route to inflicting severe economic damage on LoHud and Janet Hasson et al. might come in a civil tort action when someone is killed or injured by a criminal using a gun stolen from a listed house. A surviving plaintiff makes for a great witness to whom a jury will feel happy to award a B I G A S S judgment.

  4. AJ

    Let’s not forget that Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader who murdered an entire planet not because he was evil but because he wanted to right the wrongs of the world.

  5. Libertarian Advocate

    AJ: We all love you here, but time to separate fiction from reality ;-)

  6. Peg

    I was going to email you THIS story – but I knew you’d beat me to the punch.

    Speaking of “punch” – wondering if these IDIOTS at the paper will get anything that is coming to ‘em. I’m sure, however, that they still think they’re doing a public service.

  7. GFY

    I’m actually in agreement with you that the names of gun owners should not have been published. That said, why would the homes have been broken into if they had known there was a gun owner living there? The argument I hear (but don’t agree with) is that owning a gun will deter criminals and make neighborhoods safer.

    • A gun is useful for stopping a criminal once he breaks into your house, while you are there, especially if you don’t feel you have the luxury of waiting fifteen minutes for the police to arrive to deal with the situation. But thieves do target homes with guns – it’s why so many gun owners spend thousands of dollars on heavy, immovable safes and bolt them to concrete floors. How do thieves know which homes to target? In the past, they might see guns while they, or an accomplice is working at the home; other times, it was just dumb luck, an crime of opportunity, a bonus to an otherwise plain vanilla smash and grab. What the Journal’s interactive map did was for the first time give these people a directory of homes with guns. Case the joint and if no one’s home, bust in, but leave a tip for Janet Hasson and her brave reporters.

  8. Anonymous

    These “journalists” must have been deprived of oxygen at birth.

  9. David Smith

    Uh, Chris,

    Is that REALLY a quote from Janet Hasson?

  10. Al Dente

    I would give her a Poolitzer.

  11. I was just at a CPA’s office in New Canaan who told me this happen to his karate instructor who was a former cop and a victim of the Journal News.

    • Libertarian Advocate

      Teri: Was the Karate cop one of the CT residents listed on the LoHud site or a New York resident?

  12. Inagua

    NY State has banned the publication of the names of gun owners as part of the new gun law.

    “And, in response to a controversy that erupted after The Journal News, a daily newspaper, published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland Counties, the legislation would prohibit disclosure of the names in the new statewide gun-registration database, and would allow individuals to exempt their own names and addresses from being disclosed by counties that have such databases.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/nyregion/new-york-legislators-hope-for-speedy-vote-on-gun-laws.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&hp

  13. armonk

    My greatest fear is that gun seeking burglars see parents leave a gun rich location, assume the house is empty, break in, and find children.

  14. David Smith

    The police are covering their butts by being tactful.

    HOWEVER! Using 4th grade arithmetic we can learn a few things: Using fairly gross numbers gleaned from Wikipedia Westchester and Rockland countiers have a combined population of 1,260,000. The Journal exposed 44,000(?). Dividing 44,000 by 1,260,000 (yeah, children, etc. shouldn’t be included, but getting the absolutely correct data would be more work than the Journal is willing to do) we get .035. Which is the percentage or odds of the first home being on the list. Multiply by itself (second home) and we get .0012 as the percentage (odds). Now, this doesn’t PROVE the burglars used the map, but odds of almost 1 in a 1,000 are pretty damn convincing.