Just go for home schooling, honey

Tough luck,kid

A Florida kid whose parents claim is deathly allergic to peanuts has an entire school tied up, with kids washing their hands, brushing their teeth and of course, eschewing peanut butter. Now the parents are revolting, and good for them. One child with hypersensitive parens can do this? Screw them.

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25 responses to “Just go for home schooling, honey

  1. just_looking

    About time.

  2. No peanuts anymore on airplanes, for the same reason. One parent sued.

    I contend, and I’m no doctor, these allergies are all because so many parents are cleanaholics. No germs allowed, ever. Ergo, no immune system. You talked about this in an earlier post re using wipes on a grocery cart.

    Who among us (over 50, or um, 60) knew a soul as a child who was allergic to peanuts? Not I.

  3. Anon1

    I think the parents of her first grade classmates are being cruel. The kind thing to do would be for the classmates’ parents to use this opportunity to teach their children that it is good to help another person who needs it, even if that help requires a small sacrifice.

    When this child is older than six or seven, she will be able to take all the precautions necessary to protect herself from the life threatening allergy.

  4. anonymous

    I’ve seen quite a bit about this story on TV and what strikes me as odd is that no one has interviewed the child’s doctor for HIS/HER perspective on how severe the child’s allergy is. Maybe the doctor should speak to the parents?

    Anon1 makes a good point.

  5. townie

    our local public schools have allergy aware tables where kids with allergies can go and be assured that there is no peanut butter residue on the table. when my daughter moved to one of our independent schools, however, there is no such accommodation for the children who happily eat peanut butter sandwiches. The entire school is peanut free and it really is a bit of a false sense of security. There are so many items which contain nuts or were produced in factories with nuts. The better solution is to teach the children with nut allergies to be aware and to protect themselves. This will serve them long beyond their school years as the greater world is not peanut free.

  6. Fred2

    “Who among us (over 50, or um, 60) knew a soul as a child who was allergic to peanuts? Not I.” 40….

    Seriously, if your child IS that allergic to stuff, that is REALLY COMMON, you should take the necessary precautions against exposing them.

    But those precautions should not have to extend to forcing everyone else to drastically ( or at all) modify their lives, that’s ludicrous. It;s bad enough in normal schools already.

    That sort of crap is what gets us all the idiot laws in this country, like the ones that have curtailed bake sales in some places because “the food was not prepared in an inspected facility” & the like. Or the ones that stop kids from having lemonade stands.

  7. Red

    No, No, No Chris. You are 100% wrong on this one. What an ugly thing for those parents to do. Redneck pinheads. What kind of children are they raising? Do they all belong to the church that pickets funerals too?

  8. Shoeless

    Our son is peanut allergic and have never tried to make his problem everyone else’s problem. We even fought to allow him to sit at the non-allergy tables, so that he could have normal social interaction with the classmates of his choosing. He underatnds the graveness of his interaction with peanuts and we have a epi-pen with the school nurse, but we do not (nor should we) want the nanny state to interefere to this degree in our lives.

  9. dogwalker

    Oh, I don’t know a good way to deal with this sort of thing. Some kids do have deadly allergies . . . but society should want them to be educated and socialized. One issue I didn’t see mentioned is that peanut butter is a very economical food for young families. And there is rising concern about excessive hand washing.

    But the increase in allergies pre-dates our germ phobia, I believe. I have read speculation that the increased consumption of processed foods is at the root of it, which makes some sense to me.

    The germ phobia is definitely causing other problems. A while ago I read about some germ (sorry, forget the details) that kids normally gained natural immunity to by playing in dirt and consequently eating some of it. Seems many kids today never have the pleasure of making mud pies! It may save on laundry, but the kids get sick!

  10. Amazed by the Ignorance

    Chris

    I think you should stick to (or perhaps return to) your banter re the real estate market as your extraordinary prescience in commenting on a housing bubble that was obvious to anyone with a 1st grade education vastly exceeds your knowledge in largely every other area you choose to comment on these days.

    I am always amazed at the level of selfishness displayed by people when topics like food allergies arise. “Entire school tied up”? Are you freaking kidding? They are being asked to wash their hands and try to not expose a 6 year old girl to something that could kill her. Amazing and quite sad.

    Given how minor the “accomodations” being requested by the school really are, I side with the parents and their desire to have their daughter make it through the school day without a major medical event as opposed to the
    poor oppressed souls who are having their day so “drastically modified” .

    Your “screw them” comment really illustrates what an ass you are.

  11. atticus

    Dirt is good for you:

    And, indeed, accumulating evidence strongly suggests that eating dirt is good for you.

    In studies of what is called the hygiene hypothesis, researchers are concluding that organisms like the millions of bacteria, viruses and especially worms that enter the body along with “dirt” spur the development of a healthy immune system. Several continuing studies suggest that worms may help to redirect an immune system that has gone awry and resulted in autoimmune disorders, allergies and asthma.

    These studies, along with epidemiological observations, seem to explain why immune system disorders like multiple sclerosis, Type 1 diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, asthma and allergies have risen significantly in the United States and other developed countries….
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/health/27brod.html

  12. Cobra

    Amazed by the Ignorance = dollar bill?

  13. Anon

    Too many delusional people commenting to support one kid for me not to comment. The total amount of time required for all the other kids to wash their hands excessively, brush their teeth additionally more than the average kid and on and on is more than ridiculous. The child could well have an allergy due to the irresponsibility of cleanaholic parents so now others are asked to “sacrifice”! Please! Sounds familiar to the irresponsible home buyers that I now have to “sacrifice” for. Too many is this country need to stop asking for others “sacrifice” and resolve their own situations caused by their own irresponsibility. Enough already!

  14. Old Fart

    Can anyone tell me if there have been any scientifically sound studies that have determined how and why these peanut allergies have appeared. As those before stated, those of us over 40 don’t remember kids with theses allergies…although it may be linked to our memories.

  15. Anon.

    I think it would be terrible to have a child with a daily, life threatening allergy. Just not sure how to complete protect an at risk child in a public environment. Even the most vigilant parent has seen their child injured or killed by a tragic mishap; can a school offer full protection? I have no problem with extra washings, etc – but since these are LITTLE KIDS – what happens if one of them accidentally bring peanut germs into their shared environment? In case of exposure, how will the school determine its source? Would that student be removed? If you have a lot of rules (which may work when the minds of the ruled are better developed and nuanced) how do you enforce those rules? Should younger kids, who are even less intellectually developed, be prohibited from school grounds, at pickup times, because they may not be as vigilant about hand washing and hygiene as their older siblings? Rather than take sides -pro peanuts, anti peanuts, pro hygiene, anti hygiene -it may just be that if she needs this much protection, the system can not truly protect her. It may not be malice that drives this story, but just plain old reality testing. I would hate to be the mother of the child who dies from peanut exposure. I would also hate to be the mother of the very young child who inadvertently brings about the death of a innocent, allergic child. To many sad outcomes to have certainty about what constitutes moral high ground. If it were my kid…..

  16. another anon

    I sympathize with the child and think the other parents’ comments are unnecessarily harsh, but one aspect of the case hasn’t been addressed: If the child is really so deathly allergic that inhaling “peanut breath” could kill her, you’re making a bunch of elementary school kids potentially responsible for a peer’s death. How is a little kid going to feel if their screw-up of not washing their hands properly or bringing in an unapproved snack results in another child dying? My kids are both worryworts, and I know if they were told that carrying the faintest bit of peanut dust around with them could kill a classmate, they would never touch a peanut product again and would spend 24 hours a day stressed out that they might somehow carry a fatal dose with them to school. That sort of responsibility is too big a burden to put on a whole schoolful of children.

  17. Second-to-last liberal standing

    ” How is a little kid going to feel if their screw-up of not washing their hands properly or bringing in an unapproved snack results in another child dying?”

    That’s a really interesting point. I hadn’t thought of it that way but, you’re right – they’re placing the onus entirely on little children.

  18. cybercommuter

    I’ve got to think that peanut allergies perhaps did not exist for those over the age of 40. Again–perhaps tied to the dirt/excessive hygiene thing. Certainly in the early 70’s in the public schools in Frederick County Maryland there was no problem with the school board serving peanut butter with almost every school lunch. It seemed that almost every hot lunch had either a large peanut butter cookie, a peanut butter sandwich, or a mini muffin cup with a scoop of peanut butter in it. I think my mother mentioned that the school board had received a large government surplus of peanut butter.

  19. Walt

    Dude –
    Here is the science. It is the parents fault. What about a business that makes designer Haz-Mat suits for the little tykes? Could be a winner!
    http://www.freep.com/article/20110327/FEATURES08/103270365/Firstborns-more-vulnerable-food-allergies
    Your Pal,
    Walt

  20. JDinBkln

    OMG, little kids being forced to wash their hands – what a police state! Give me a break. This is a public school, so legally, I don’t see what choice the school has — this child is entitled to attend school in a safe environment. If that means the rest of the class needs to wash their hands more often so a 6 yr old little girl doesnt go into anaphylactic shock, so be it. It’s reality today, and it’s not just at that school — a lot of schools in Fairfield County have ‘peanut-free zones’ in the cafeteria for this same reason.

  21. LLS2

    totally disagree w/ you on this one, and echo ‘amazed by the ignorance’ comment.

    stick to RE chris. at least there, anyone can form an opinion w/ out an education.

    [sarc on] maybe playing in the sandbox w/ radioactive fissile dust will cure the allergies. [sarc / off]

  22. Fake Walt

    I haven’t been to this blog in a while. It’s funny we always had Walt / Fake Walt. It looks like we now have” another anon” and “Second-to-last liberal standing” Next thing you know we’ll have “Cos Cobber part Deux”

    As far as the article goes, you can touch my peanuts but stay away from my Nutella

    Off to Dubai

    Kind regards,

    Fake Walt

  23. Helsa Poppin

    I think it was more than just handwashing – it sounds like the kids were required to rinse their mouths out several times a day as well. I can see that would be a disruption in the day, not just because of the time it takes but also because it is constantly reinforcing that these kids are potential sources of contamination and even death for another child. How do you get them to settle down to phonics after that?

    The footage I saw showed quite a few people picketing. If it was just the affected families, then it must have been just about everyone in the little girl’s class. The degree of unanimity leads me to believe that what the school was asking was, indeed, unreasonable. There comes a point where accommodating a disability is so disruptive to the group that it would be best not to have the child in the environment.

    Also, if such extraordinary measures are required, then the severity of the allergy would indicate that this child does not belong in school at all, because it would be virtually impossible to keep the kid from encountering “peanut breath.” Scenario: During recess, a third grader eats a bite of peanut-laden granola bar that he finds in his pocket, then while running around, bumps into allergy girl and breathes on her face. The severity of an allergy that requires mouth-rinsing of all classmates would also require pat-downs, handwashing, and mouth-rinsing of all people who could possibly come in contact with her during the day. If that’s unreasonable, then surely it’s unreasonable to ask the same of her classmates.

    All of that said, I could never take part in such a picket – it must be very painful for the little girl and her parents to feel so excluded. But it’s probably the fault of the school for being too high-handed and dismissive of the parents’ legitimate complaints – they felt they had no choice but to make their protests public. I hope it doesn’t result in bullying of the girl down the line.