I was going to point this out to Mr. Bill yesterday

Obummer has put together a massive, world-wide drone killer operation. According to Mr. Bill, these hateful machines are the fault of that ol’ debbil Bush but, like so much of President Bush’s efforts in this arena have been seen, raised and even trebled by Obummer.

UPDATE: a reader sends along this link to a WSJ blog that decries the hypocrisy of Obummer who, rather than do anything mean like stick a terrorist in Gitmo and extract information from him kills him via remote control instead. No mess, no bother, no complaints from his liberal friends.

Of course, this “out of sight, out of mind” thinking is endemic throughout the entire liberal agenda. Coal-powered cars like the Prius are the favored vehicle because all those icky rare earths are mined in far off China. Oil may be imported from the Nigerian delta, one of the most polluted, corrupt countries on earth but not Canada because we can see Canada from our back porch. Cuba is an acceptable place to visit and support because Castro keeps his political prisoners hidden away from Greenwich touristas, and so on.


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14 responses to “I was going to point this out to Mr. Bill yesterday

  1. pulled up in OG

    May not be armed yet, but domestic ops also on the rise.

  2. anon

    White House Dossier blogger Keith Koffler has a good take on the same WP article. BTW, notice that the WP article has elicited 3-2-1-2 comments!! Kinda of a hot topic, I’d say.


  3. anon

    note: the link I sent has nothing to do with the Wall Street Journal (WSJ)

  4. Rick Perry

    “Every barrel of oil that comes out of those sands in Canada is a barrel of oil that we don’t have to buy from a foreign source.”

  5. john


    Full disclosure here, I work for a Trans Canada subsidiary company, they who are pushing the Keystone XL pipe to bring the tar sands oil to the Texas refineries. Yes, TCPL is not a non profit company, the enormous investment in the Keystone pipe will support/creat thousands of North American jobs during the construction period and then as few as a few hundred once the operational phase kicks in. Plus they hope to make some money. So, that’s a bad thing ? II’m flabergasted we are painted as some sort of pilager/land rapist types when every one of Middle Eastern “governments” who might otherwise supply the oil are basically the scum of the Earth in more ways than any of us can imagine. Obama’s failure to grasp this simple fact is troubling, but then he lost me early in his term as President when he genuflected before the Sopranos, errr, I mean the Saudi “Royals”

    So that’s my rant, thanks for providing this forum and thank too for all you do to educate, best wishes for the New Year,


  6. Cos cobber

    Offshoring of environmentally intensive activities has been the inadvertent result of much of the environmentalist anti development and anti business agenda. No-no, we can’t have that steel mill here….but where can I buy a Prius? Much of the enviro agenda has merely resulted in the mass relocation of dirty businesses.

  7. Cos cobber

    Btw, the relocation of dirty businesses has hurt who the most? answer: the middle class and union labor.

  8. DollarBill

    Notwithstanding their “cheaper” costs, these drones are truly hateful machines, and the fact that Obama has adopted Cheney-like methods and zero transparency in utilizing them to frightening levels of magnitude and sophistication doesn’t make their use any more justifiable than if President Bush were using them. Indeed, it is yet more evidence of how our national security state at the hands of Republicans and Democrats alike is strangling us, and our freedoms.. Re “liberal complaints,” I wish more liberals were as outraged at Obama for his perpetuation and extension of Bush-Cheney national security policies, but there is a tribal component to American politics, which leaves far too many “on our side” mute when they should be objecting. Loudly. This trend is way beyond Democrat or Republican party politics: it is the face of a frightening new intrusion into our lives, especially now that drones are insinuating themselves into domestic operations. Time to renew our membership to the ACLU, I’d say.

  9. Cos Cobber

    Dollar$, What freedoms have been strangled by Republicans or Democrats in the past 20 years? I really cant think of any. And if its so repressive here, surely there must be a better place to be, where?

    I agree, drones represent a new ugly tool for mankind to settle disputes, but since when is war fair? If you want to argue that perhaps we have been overzelous in the use of drones, you may have a case, but I’ll never concur that we shouldnt be using them at all or even using them heavily.

    • Cos Cobber, I just read a historical novel about British commandos who came up with the idea of dropping into occupied France and killing a pile of Nazi bomber pilots as they were bused to their airfield. The plan was shot down, so to speak, by MI6 top brass who deemed it “ungentlemanly” for British soldiers dressed as civilians to shoot up other officers, even if those officers were Nazis on their way to bomb London. The book is based on fact and this anecdote certainly rings true.

  10. JRH

    It’s absurd to say “not a complaint from his liberal friends,” the ACLU has been litigating against the Obama administration on this and other issues since the day he took office. It’s been ACLU lawyers who have been some of the loudest and most persistent critics of this Democratic administration’s national security, intelligence and civil liberties policies.

  11. DollarBill

    Guess you haven’t read a newspaper in the last ten years, eh Cos Cobber?: Here are just a few examples of our freedoms being slowly strangled (in a bipartisan fashion) in the last few 10 years: how about the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, excessive reliance on state secrets privilege, undeclared wars (Iraq, Libya), illegal detention, mainstreaming of torture, war on Wikileaks, etc.. That’s just a few off the top of my noggin, all violations of Constitutional freedoms, and I’m sure I could come up with more. You really should get out more, Cos Cobber, or has Rip Van Winkle got to you?

    As for drones, I’m not saying we shouldn’t use them, but there should be some degree of accountability and oversight in their use. Right now, as that WashPost article documents, there is none, and as JRH properly mentions the ACLU (God bless them) has been one of the thorns in Obama’s side on this and other multiple violations of civil liberties.

  12. HG

    Cobber, I am (surprisingly) with Bill on this, although I have no problem with dropping anything on A.Q. types overseas, whether from a drone or otherwise. Was there a Congressional declaration of war for Iraq, Afghanistan or Al Qaeda? Was the War Powers Act used? (I don’t think so. I do not think the following was done. I think all Presidents since Truman have participated in a shift of Constitutional powers from Congress to the Presidency):

    US Code TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 33 > § 1543
    In the absence of a declaration of war, in any case in which United States Armed Forces are introduced—(1) into hostilities or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances…The President shall submit within 48 hours to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and to the President pro tempore of the Senate a report, in writing, setting forth—(A) the circumstances necessitating the introduction of United States Armed Forces; (B) the constitutional and legislative authority under which such introduction took place; and (C) the estimated scope and duration of the hostilities or involvement.

  13. AJ

    DollarBill, from your comments it sounds to me like your a libertarian who just hasn’t realized it yet. All the things you complain about are just steps taken by the globalists who want to bring about one world government, a new world order. The way they plan to do this is through privately owned centeral banking and carbon credits, cap and trade, i.e., a whole new market we get to pay for and they, the globalists get to speculate in, and when they place losing bets we get to pay for again. Australia just passed new carbon credit laws along with a law that will fine anyone who criticizes the new carbon credit laws up to 1.2 million dollars. So much for free speech. Most people don’t realize that the Federal Reserve is a privately held bank, owned by US and foreign interests. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExBE651_vOY part one and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7HDTDDopA&feature=related part two for a full explanation of fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve. The only presidential candidate who will adress your concerns is Ron Paul. By the way Paul was opposed to the repeal of Glass Steagall.