ABA President to disappointed law grads: “you dumb f**ks!”


If you’re smart enough to get through law school, you’re smart enough to know you’re going to end up buried in debt and unemployed”. Okay, I’m paraphrasing here, but that’s about the gist of it. And I agree. I’m not the only lawyer to point put that it’s a different world than the one twenty years ago, when state universities offered law degrees for zero or very small tuition. Today, if you can’t get into one of the top 5 or 10 schools, save your money and go do something productive. The world will be better off and so will you.


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7 responses to “ABA President to disappointed law grads: “you dumb f**ks!”

  1. peeps

    The same could be true for many professions. There are not a fraction of jobs available for the kids who graduate with teaching degrees. When a school has a student teacher they thought was great, there’s no opening to offer them. Districts are laying off. If you don’t have a relative in the Human Resources Department of a district or a parent who is a school principal, you will be working in another field. It’s getting to be like the way we’ve historically thought of Italy, where you are born into a profession. The sad part is that colleges continue to promote the fallacy that if you are laid off from your profession, you should pay tuition and pick up a teaching degree. There’s going to be no place that will be hiring, especially if you are older, due this being your second career. The only fields in education that are hiring are special education behavior disorder setting, as people get burned out of that, and also jobs like superintendent. They are often canned by the tax payers and get shuffled around. If you don’t have an inner connection, it is very hard to get a teaching job, and the colleges aren’t honest with the kids as they gather up the tuition $$$.

  2. Anonymous

    even when lawyers — nearly all of them — made a lot of money, most of them were unhappy with their choice of careers. given the choice, more lawyers would have elected to do something else than any other profession save one … dentists. but at least those lawyers made good money.

  3. I remember quite a few years ago when I was on my way into the Stamford Court House one fine October morning to see whether I’d passed the CT Bar Exam, I encountered a nice fellow on his way into the Court who vainly tried to warn me not to go the route I was traveling. He said that had he to do it all over again, he’d have purchased a big back-hoe instead. I passed the Bar, I often think he was right.

  4. Patrick

    Economies evolve and ours is going through a great shift. Bottom line is if you have a strong engineering background with heavy math and science you are marketable. The problem is our high schools don’t prepare us for this.

    I don’t agree that we will end up like Italy in terms of being born into a profession in the long run. Hopefully we will do the right thing and prepare our kids for the new economy.

  5. Artist

    Patrick is dead on. The whole education system, be it private or public, promotes: sports, arts/crafts, history and literature. In the name of “whole body” education, the system produces mediocre students that can’t compete in the global marketplace.

  6. AJ

    I think everyone should be required to do three years of law school as preschool so that everyone can enter kindergarten with their J.D. They’re going to need it not to defend themselves from bullies but to defend themselves from the state. Grade school students in St. Louis are being asked– required– to wear twenty-four hour monitoring devices so the school can observe students twenty-four hours a day– so they have an excuse to put them on ritalin, or call in Children’s Aid, no doubt. Here’s a link to that article: http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/metro/education/parkway-s-use-of-fitness-monitors-raises-privacy-questions/article_af46b549-0f1e-5a41-8a26-7f77c91ced20.html#ixzz1iaLCRtpt . Perhaps the rigorous preschool mental activity will prevent them from being so stupid as to write essays in college like the one that the following exerpt was taken from : “As human beings, we are not really responsible for our own acts, and so we need government to control those who don’t care about others.” when students were asked to describe their vision of the American dream. You can read the rest of that article on shtfplan.com; the link to that acrticle is: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/plundering-the-american-dream-college-students-demonstrate-the-idiocy-of-our-education-system_01052012 . CF understates the seriousness of our problem in his headline: actually we’re all f**cked.

  7. peeps

    Patrick – Maybe you don’t have to be born into a profession such as teaching here in Greenwich, but I know of districts where it seems that they post openings because they legally have to, but the person hired seems to usually be related to someone in Human Resources or an administrator’s kid. It would be interesting if they ever had to release a family tree of relatives employed by each school district.