(A little) more on Scott Frantz

Frantz comes to his senses and ditches this mess in favor of sailing to Bermuda

Frantz comes to his senses and ditches this mess in favor of sailing to Bermuda

I heard attorney Martha Dean speak Wednesday night on the subject of our new gun law and the plans afoot to file a legal challenge against it. A lot of what she said I’ve said here previously: you don’t negotiate with these people, because they have no intention of stopping with this month’s triumph and will return, again and again, until they’ve driven gun owners from Connecticut. I was struck by one observation she made that confirmed my own sense that Scott Frantz, instead of working to remove the most egregious proposals for confiscation, should have encouraged their inclusion instead.

Dean reported that the structure of the gun bill was supplied by legal scholars from out of state, who carefully drafted a law, limited in its provisions, that had the best chance of surviving constitutional review. That’s not surprising; Connecticut’s legislators are not renowned for their mental acuity or keen legal skills, but it does suggest that Frantz missed an opportunity to sabotage their efforts. Had he and his handful of fellow Republicans supported and encouraged the amateurs who were pressing for immediate confiscation of guns, in-home, forcible inspections, mandatory insurance policies, huge annual permit fees, and all the rest, then either the careful work of the out of state lawyers would have been derailed – best result, because it would have made it child’s play to get the law overturned, or, second best, the Democrat leadership would have been forced to strike out the most onerous of the Republican’s suggestions and then explain to their base why they wanted a watered down bill. That at least would have provided great theatre, even if the outcome: the current law, was unchanged. Frantz never had a chance to effect that outcome anyway, so as I suggested last week, he should have tried a more devious route.

Scott Frantz is one of the most decent people in Greenwich, kind, generous and well liked by everyone, so this is not a criticism of him as a person, at all. But when we send a representative up to Hartford to wage battle in a hopelessly one-sided war, we would probably be better served by a mean, sneaky son of a bitch.

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  1. FlyAngler

    Gee, I wonder how many people here said something similar about forcing the Dems to go to Defcon1, where they were never going to go. As I and ores have said, the Dems (or their advisor/puppet-masters at Brady) knew “no-grandfathering” was too far. That a full surrender/confiscation regime would be immediately challenged and, given it is a forfeiture, likely injuncted before it could take place.

    Using the analogy of the frog in the slowly warming pot, no-grandfathering would have been the equivalent of turning the heat from simmer to high, because you were impatient. This way, keep what you have but don’t dare use them to eit full capacity, keeps the simmer going. Folks who have the now-banned items feel safer because they get to keep what they have. The useful idiots in the “do something now, anything” center are relieved that Hartford is “protecting the children”.

    Meanwhile, the useful idiots who casually signed on with March for Change and CAGV are lamenting that Hartford “did not go far enough”, this includes more than a few Sandy Hook parents.

    Yet, the smart leadership of these organizations, while professing some disappointment in public, are sitting in quiet kitchens and the back of Starbucks plotting their next moves.

    Chris, as Martha said Wednesday, THEY will find a test case out there after the turn of the new year. Someone with a few “too many” guns who shows any sign of being other than “normal” and then they will start the “How many guns does someone really need?” campaign.

    For those of you breathing a sigh of relief, don’t be foolish, his is still early moves in a chess game that started in the mid–1980s. Sadly, while Frantz, Cafero, McKinney, Floren, Boucher and others think they are playing 2-D chess, the gun-takers (lead by the Brady and other, smarter, people) are playing 3-D Wizards Chess, and are a couple of moves ahead.

    God save the Republic.

  2. burningmadolf

    Interesting take, I think the legal battle is there in the way the current law is written, but allowing/forcing the tools in Hartford to put in every cockamamie idea like home inspections, insurance, etc. would have been interesting, to say the least.

  3. Anonymous

    bills are 99.999% always drafted by lobbyists. at the end of the day, franz answers to them, not to his voters.

  4. anonymous

    If you really want to make a point, draft and send Chris von Keyserling up to Hartford as the Greenwich rep.

  5. A cautionary note to the possibly naive

    Well, please keep in mind that Senator Scott Frantz was the only individual co-sponsor of raised Senate Bill 506, which imposes full background checks on all long guns (INCLUDING ANTIQUES). SB 506 was rolled into the omnibus gun law signed by Governor Malloy, which Senator Frantz voted for as well, and the restrictions in it became effective immediately.

    So it is not fair to call Senator Frantz just a hapless bystander here, pure in his intentions but flattened by charging Democratic Party donkeys. Rather, he chose to associate himself actively as co-sponsor of some of the most senseless new gun restrictions now on the books in Connecticut.

    So, if you wish to transfer your Revolutionary War flintlock musket from now on (it is a military-style weapon, after all), go see an FFL and pay $50 for a background check. And remember to thank Scott when you do so. Nice is as nice does, and this was not nice at all.

  6. Anon

    Did anyone ever consider that Senator Scott Frantz voted along the lines of how his consituents felt?

    • Thaddeus Stevens comments on Scott Frantz

      I hope not to sound harsh, but it seems to me that Scott’s job is not to vote how his constituents feel. If Abraham Lincoln had followed this advice, perhaps slavery still would be legal in the United States. At least Scott should read the bills he agrees to sponsor before putting his name on them.

      Requiring a background check to transfer a flintlock musket is not something that even those who hate guns in general would think has any public purpose whatsoever. Backing such legislation is just sloppy and inattentive. Constituents have the right to expect more of their elected representatives.

    • Of course I considered that. Obama also votes along the lines of how his constituents feel. I’m not equating Scott with Obama, but I don’t feel that either represents this constituent. My broader point about our state senator, however, was that he is ineffective in his representation because going along with the Democrats is a chump’s game – notice your taxes going up lately? Frantz opposed that, gave eloquent, well-thought-out reasons against it and the effect was …nothing.
      Smarter politiciking is called for.

  7. FF

    Ever hear of ALEC? They write bills for Republican legislators including Fred Camillo. They have written some of the most draconian, obnoxious and fully legal laws against abortion that practically has shut down the process in many southern states. Outsiders rule these days.

    House of Representatives
    Rep. Al Adinolfi (R-103); Health and Human Services Task Force[1]
    Rep. Bill Aman (R-14); Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force, Civil Justice Task Force [2]
    Rep. Penny Bacchiochi (R-52); International Relations Task Force[3]
    Rep. Whit Bett (R-78); Health and Human Services Task Force[4]
    Rep. Fred Camillo, Jr. (R-151), ALEC Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force member[5]
    Rep. Vincent J. Candelora (R-86); Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force[6]
    Rep. Christie Carpino (R-32); Civil Justice Task Force [7]
    Rep. Dan Carter (R-2); Commerce, Insurance and Economic Development Task Force [8]
    Rep. Christopher Davis (R-57); Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force[9]
    Rep. DebraLee Hovey (R-112), State Chairman[10]; Public Safety and Elections Task Force [11]
    Rep. Themis Klarides (R-114); Public Safety and Elections Task Force [11]
    Rep. David K. Labriola (R-131); Civil Justice Task Force[12]
    Rep. Gail Lavielle (R-143); Education Task Force[13]
    Rep. Timothy LeGeyt (R-17); Education Task Force[14]
    Rep. Lawrence Miller (R-122)[15]; Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force[16]
    Rep. Michael Molgano (R-125); Education Task Force[17]
    Rep. Jason Perillo (R-113); Health and Human Services Task Force[18]
    Rep. John Piscopo (R-76), Second Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors[19][20] and Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force[21] and International Relations Task Force member[3]
    Rep. Rosa C. Rebimbas (R-70); Communications and Technology Task Force[22]
    Rep. John T. Shaban (R-135); Civil Justice Task Force[23]

    Senate
    Sen. Michael McLachlan (R-24); Energy, Environment and Agriculture Task Force[24]
    Sen. Kevin Witkos (R-17), State Chairman
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