Traitorous acts

Snowden IIISIS using Snowden’s leaked information to evade detection.

Mr. Snowden “went way beyond disclosing things that bore on privacy concerns,” said Mr. Inglis, who retired [from the NSA] in January. “‘Sources and methods’ is what we say inside the intelligence community — the means and methods we use to hold our adversaries at risk, and ISIL is clearly one of those.

“Having disclosed all of those methods, or at least some degree of those methods, it would be impossible to imagine that, as intelligent as they are in the use of technology, in the employment of communications for their own purposes, it’s impossible to imagine that they wouldn’t understand how they might be at risk to intelligence services around the world, not the least of which is the U.S. And they necessarily do what they think is in their best interest to defend themselves,” he said.

This is hardly news, of course, but it does make obvious who Snowden is and what he’s done. Where’s a drone when we need one?



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25 responses to “Traitorous acts

  1. Cos Cobber

    By hiding in Russia Snowden showed us all what he’s really about.

    • Fred2

      By hiding in Russia he’s just protecting his arse from the wrath of the US deep state. Partially for good traiterous reason, but mostly because he embarrassed the hell out of the lot of career bureaucrats who were NOT DOING THEIR JOBS PROPERLY, and there is nothing like the wrath of the bureaucrat embarrassed.

      He’d be punished way out of proportion to his revelations.

  2. please include Ø in those ‘traitorous acts’:

    “After suggestions that the administration may have been blindsided by the rise of ISIS, and that poor intelligence was to blame, the former Pentagon official said some of the intelligence was so good it was described as “exquisite”

  3. AJ

    And ISIS got the idea that they could infiltrate the US via our southern border from watching James O’Keefe’s video clip of himself dressed as Osama bin Laden crossing the Rio Grande.

    You guys are so gullible that you’ll believe the most basic illusionist’s tricks. As pressure builds and legislation is being introduced to crack down on the NSA’s spying on Americans they come up with this crap. That the terrorists can now avoid detection because they know that America was spying on emails and social media as if that was some big secret. Where are the links to these ruinous articles? There aren’t any. What was this now public information that the enemy now has? If it’s secret, it’s only secret to the American Public. I can’t believe that you guys are so easily played. It’s so easy to push your buttons and get you to wave your little American flags. Old school Republicans, the Grand Old Party. Bah! I’m new school Republican, and you guys are about to go extinct.

    • Cos Cobber

      seriously, who gave you a keyboard?

      • AJ

        And who created ISIS? In Libya, In Syria? Good work Obama. Guess we taught Gaddafi and Assad a thing or two: there’s a new sheriff in town; we also eliminated the at the time nonexistent Al-Qaeda in Iraq. Mission accomplished.

        What have we accomplished? We created a terrorist organization in the Middle East that before we started fixing things didn’t exist. And we’ve created the Patriot Act and a spy network to eavesdrop on everything Americans say and do. Mission accomplished.

      • Riverside Dog Walker

        I’m with AJ on this one. Riddle me this Batman:

        We spend 10 years building, training, and equipping the Iraqi Army at the expense of our children because it was all charged to our corporate card, and then they fold like a cheap suit the first time they are confronted by a small, but smart and organized adversary like ISIS. And this is Snowden’s fault?

        I’ll ask the same question on Afghanistan; check back with me in a year or two when the same thing happens there.

        If you want to be truly amazed at something, pull a credit report on yourself, or apply for credit on something. It is incomprehensible to me the amount of detailed personal information shared among these agencies; employment history going back 15 years, cars you currently own, names of family members, etc. What’s up with that? How does that relate to being able to pay back a debt?

        • Anonymous

          All I saying is that Snowden is no hero by hiding in Russia. If anything his choice for Russia shows his true stripes.

          As for ISIS, it is the ugly monster that fills the vacuum in this part of the world. Iraqi army has folded because of internal sectarian division and lack of weapons…..maybe we were right not to provide more weapons.

        • AJ

          In many ways Snowden is much like Daniel Ellsberg who released the Pentagon papers, ending the war in Vietnam. Before Ellsberg the war had to continue because: “If you knew what we knew, then you’d know why,” said the government. But for national security reasons we weren’t allowed to know why — we just had to have faith in our government (of the people, by the people, blah, blah, blah).

          In Vietnam we did not fight to win, the war was meant to go on forever. How may more Americans would have been drafted off the streets to have been thrown in the meat grinder to be killed as canon fodder? Hundreds of thousands? More? And how many Vietnamese would have been killed, and what did they ever do to us, and what threat did they pose to America?

          The government can not leave you alone. They have to create fear; they have to have a bogey man so that you have a reason to need them. They created Al-Qaeda, they created ISIS, and then they created this great spy network, not to watch their own creation but to spy on you.

          From the British movie 1984 which is not directly from the book 1984 but a paraphrasing of Chapter 9:

          (from Emmanuel Goldstein’s book) “In accordance to the principles of doublethink, it does not matter if the war is not real, or when it is, that victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won. It is meant to be continuous. The essential act of modern warfare is the destruction of the produce of human labour. A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. In principle, the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects, and its object is not victory over Eurasia or Eastasia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.”

        • AJ

          Anonymous @ 7:55am: “As for ISIS, it is the ugly monster that fills the vacuum in this part of the world. Iraqi army has folded because of internal sectarian division and . . .”?

          Who created that vacuum in that part of the world? Could it have been America with its unprovoked first strike attack on Iraq? And who created and trained the Iraqi army? And what happened to dissenters to this wondrous plan? Just Google Scott Ritter.

          “Poll: 70% believe Saddam, 9-11 link

          WASHINGTON (AP) — Nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, says a poll out almost two years after the terrorists’ strike against this country.

          Sixty-nine percent in a Washington Post poll published Saturday said they believe it is likely the Iraqi leader was personally involved in the attacks carried out by al-Qaeda. A majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents believe it’s likely Saddam was involved. . . .”

          As I said, “You fools will believe anything,” You “Patriotic,” flag waving fools, and unwitting collaborators to the Globalist’s destruction of America, one world government by UN dictate cause.

      • AJ-world is an alternate reality where everything has a diabolical secret-government conspiracy behind it. Only he has the courage and intelligence to uncover these mysterious conspiracies. He uses his keyboard to grant us access to his truths.

        All those outside AJ-world are gullible fools and naive simpletons.

        If you ask him, he might explain how the US government created Al Qaeda and ISIS………

        • AJ

          ISIS: Made in USA

          The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is a creation of the United States and its Persian Gulf allies, namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and recently added to the list, Kuwait. The Daily Beast in an article titled, “America’s Allies Are Funding ISIS,” states:

          The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), now threatening Baghdad, was funded for years by wealthy donors in Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, three U.S. allies that have dual agendas in the war on terror.

          Despite the candor of the opening sentence, the article would unravel into a myriad of lies laid to obfuscate America’s role in the creation of ISIS. The article would claim:

          The extremist group that is threatening the existence of the Iraqi state was built and grown for years with the help of elite donors from American supposed allies in the Persian Gulf region. There, the threat of Iran, Assad, and the Sunni-Shiite sectarian war trumps the U.S. goal of stability and moderation in the region.

          However, the US goal in the region was never “stability” and surely not “moderation.” As early as 2007, sources within the Pentagon and across the US intelligence community revealed a conspiracy to drown the Middle East in sectarian war, and to do so by arming and funding extremist groups including the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda itself. Published in 2007 – a full 4 years before the 2011 “Arab Spring” would begin – Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s New Yorker article titled, “”The Redirection: Is the Administration’s new policy benefiting our enemies in the war on terrorism?” stated specifically (emphasis added):

          To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.

          The 9 page, extensive report has since been vindicated many times over with revelations of US, NATO, and Persian Gulf complicity in raising armies of extremists within Libya and along Syria’s borders. ISIS itself, which is claimed to occupy a region stretching from northeastern Syria and across northern and western Iraq, has operated all along Turkey’s border with Syria, “coincidentally” where the US CIA has conducted years of “monitoring” and arming of “moderate” groups.

          In fact, the US admits it has armed, funded, and equipped “moderates” to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. In a March 2013 Telegraph article titled, “US and Europe in ‘major airlift of arms to Syrian rebels through Zagreb’,” it was reported that a single program included 3,000 tons of weapons sent in 75 planeloads paid for by Saudi Arabia at the bidding of the United States. The New York Times in its article, “Arms Airlift to Syria Rebels Expands, With C.I.A. Aid,” admits that the CIA assisted Arab governments and Turkey with military aid to terrorists fighting in Syria constituting hundreds of airlifts landing in both Jordan and Turkey.

          The vast scale of US, NATO, and Arab aid to terrorists fighting in Syria leaves no doubt that the conspiracy described by Hersh in 2007 was carried out in earnest, and that the reason Al Qaeda groups such as Al Nusra and ISIS displaced so-called “moderates,” was because such “moderates” never existed in any significant manner to begin with. While articles like the Daily Beast’s “America’s Allies Are Funding ISIS” now try to portray a divide between US and Persian Gulf foreign policy, from Hersh’s 2007 article and all throughout the past 3 years in Libya and Syria, the goal of raising an army in the name of Al Qaeda has been clearly shared and demonstrably pursued by both the US and its regional partners.

          The plan, from the beginning, was to raise an extremist expeditionary force to trigger a regional sectarian bloodbath – a bloodbath now raging across multiple borders and set to expand further if decisive action is not taken.

          Iran Must Avoid America’s “Touch of Death” and Sectarian War at All Costs

          Despite an open conspiracy to drown the region in sectarian strife, the US now poses as a stakeholder in Iraq’s stability. Having armed, funded, and assisted ISIS into existence and into northern Iraq itself, the idea of America “intervening” to stop ISIS is comparable to an arsonist extinguishing his fire with more gasoline. Reviled across the region, any government – be it in Baghdad, Tehran, or Damascus – that allies itself with the US will be immediately tainted in the minds of forces forming along both sides of this artificially created but growing sectarian divide. Iran’s mere consideration of joint-operations with the US can strategically hobble any meaningful attempts on the ground to stop ISIS from establishing itself in Iraq and using Iraqi territory to launch attacks against both Tehran and Damascus.

          Any Iranian assistance to Iraq should be given only under the condition that the US not intervene in any manner. Iran’s main concern should be portraying the true foreign-funded nature of ISIS, while uniting genuine Sunni and Shia’a groups together to purge what is a foreign invasion of Iraqi territory. Iran must also begin allaying fears among Iraq’s Sunni population that Tehran may try to use the current crisis to gain further influence over Baghdad.

          While the US downplays the sectarian aspects of ISIS’ invasion of Iraq before global audiences, its propaganda machine across the Middle East, assisted by Doha and Riyadh, is stoking sectarian tensions. The ISIS has committed itself to a campaign of over-the-top sectarian vitriol and atrocities solely designed to trigger a wider Sunni-Shia’a conflict. That the US created ISIS and it is now in Iraq attempting to stoke a greater bloodbath with its already abhorrent invasion, is precisely why Tehran and Baghdad should take a cue from Damascus, and disassociate itself from the West, dealing with ISIS themselves.

          Tony Cartalucci, Bangkok-based geopolitical researcher and writer, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

        • AJ

          During an appearance on Fox News, General Thomas McInerney acknowledged that the United States “helped build ISIS” as a result of the group obtaining weapons from the Benghazi consulate in Libya which was attacked by jihadists in September 2012.

          Asked what he thought of the idea of arming so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels after FSA militants kidnapped UN peacekeepers in the Golan Heights, McInerney said the policy had been a failure.

          “We backed I believe in some cases, some of the wrong people and not in the right part of the Free Syrian Army and that’s a little confusing to people, so I’ve always maintained….that we were backing the wrong types.”

          Then made reference to a Bret Baier Fox News special set to air on Friday which will, “show some of those weapons from Benghazi ended up in the hands of ISIS – so we helped build ISIS,” said

          In May last year, Senator Rand Paul was one of the first to speculate that the truth behind Benghazi was linked to an illicit arms smuggling program that saw weapons being trafficked to terrorists in Syria as part of the United States’ proxy war against the Assad regime.

          “I’ve actually always suspected that, although I have no evidence, that maybe we were facilitating arms leaving Libya going through Turkey into Syria,” Paul told CNN, adding that he “never….quite understood the cover-up — if it was intentional or incompetence”.

          At the same time it emerged that the U.S. State Department had hired an Al-Qaeda offshoot organization, the February 17th Martyrs Brigade, to “defend” the Benghazi Mission months before the attack.

          Senator Paul was vindicated less than three months later when it emerged that the CIA had been subjecting its operatives to monthly polygraph tests in an effort to keep a lid on details of the arms smuggling operation being leaked.

          CNN subsequently reported that dozens of CIA agents were on the ground in Benghazi during the attack and that the polygraph tests were mandated in order to prevent operatives from talking to Congress or the media about a program that revolved around “secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.” Key Syrian rebel leaders later defected to join ISIS.

          In addition to ISIS obtaining weapons from Benghazi, many members of the group were also trained by the United States at a secret base in Jordan in 2012.

        • AJ

          “. . . Al Qaeda was created by the CIA, in their offices in Washington D.C., According to Richard Clark in his most recent book. It was created for Saudi Arabia to bankroll Osama bin Laden, through the House of Saud, “in the Afghan war against the Soviet Union during the 1980’s and Riyadh and Washington together contributed an estimated $3.5 billion to the mujahideen.” . . .”

        • AJ

          McCain meets with ISIS to give them the thumbs up and promise our support.

          I could go on, and on, and on, but who do you think we backed in Libya, and who do you think we backed in Syria. The Romper Room Do Bee?
          And BTW, there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq, not until we got there and wiped put Al-Qaeda’s foes.

    • towny

      Take it easy AJ. Poor guy is just a real estate agent.

      Basic police work led to Osama Bin Laden. Not General Hayden.

  4. AJ

    ‘Newly Revealed NSA Program ICREACH Extends the NSA’s Reach Even Further’

    “Turns out, the DEA and FBI may know what medical conditions you have, whether you are having an affair, where you were last night, and more—all without any knowing that you have ever broken a law.

    That’s because the DEA and FBI, as part of over 1000 analysts at 23 U.S. intelligence agencies, have the ability to peer over the NSA’s shoulder and see much of the NSA’s metadata with ICREACH. Metadata is transactional data about communications, such as numbers dialed, email addresses sent to, and duration of phone calls, and it can be incredibly revealing. ICREACH, exposed by a release of Snowden documents in The Intercept, is a system that enables sharing of metadata by “provid[ing] analysts with the ability to perform a one-stop search of information from a wide variety of separate databases.” It’s the latest in a string of documents that demonstrate how little the intelligence community distinguishes between counter-terrorism and ordinary crime—and just how close to home surveillance may really be.

    The documents describe ICREACH as a “one-stop shopping tool for consolidated communications metadata analytic needs.” ICREACH brings together various databases with a single search query, allowing analysts to search literally billions of records. The tool allows sharing of “more than 30 different kinds of metadata on emails, phone calls, faxes, internet chats, and text messages, as well as location information collected from cellphones.” It is intended to include data from Five Eyes partners as well. While the program shares data obtained under Executive Order 12333, it includes data from U.S. persons.

    ICREACH grew out of CRISSCROSS and PROTON, older tools that allowed the CIA, DEA, FBI, DIA, and NSA to share metadata. Metadata sharing in CRISSCROSS started with only date, time, duration, calling number, and called number. PROTON, which expanded CRISSCROSS, allowed sharing of far more information, including latitude and longitude coordinates, email headers, and travel records like flight numbers. The system had compatibility issues, and NSA never added the additional information PROTON could handle. PROTON also appears to have the capacity for sophisticated data analysis: “PROTON tools find other entities that behave in a similar manner to a specific target.”

    While data sharing may seem innocuous, and perhaps even necessary, the melding of domestic law enforcement and national security agencies deserves far more attention. The blending of the war on drugs and the war on terror, and domestic and international law enforcement, and the move from targeted to mass, suspicionless surveillance, is leading to a place where everyone is a suspect and can be targeted at any time.

    As The Intercept article pointed out, one serious concern is that data obtained through ICREACH could be used for parallel construction— the practice through which the DEA obscures the source of tips it receives from the NSA and then passes on to other law enforcement agencies. . . .”

    • jB


      I stopped reading your rant. It amounts to so much shit over and over again. You give an awful lot of credit to what I view as a dysfunctional gvmt. Couple that with your parroting ruskie propaganda on Ukraine and you don’t look too bright.

      I expect to start skipping over your comments as you remain true to your prior character until you drop off my radar altogether.

      You are becoming irrelavent. Adios.

      • AJ is howling crazy, and reading his posts is a waste of time.
        He cites an article to support his argument, and then he can’t figure out whether he believes the article or not:
        “…Despite the candor of the opening sentence, the article would unravel into a myriad of lies laid to obfuscate America’s role in the creation of ISIS.”

        We know he’s nuts when he cites Sy Hersh who is full of crap. From Hersh’s wikipedia page: “In September 2013, during an interview with The Guardian, Hersh commented that the 2011 raid that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden was “one big lie, not one word of it is true”.

        Today’s NY Times has an article by two Saudi intellectuals/government types that Saudi Arabia is against ISIS (contradicting AJ’s nonsense). We can expect AJ to say, “Well of course the Saudis deny it..” In AJ-world, the public denial of a thing is proof of a conspiracy in favor of the thing, but only AJ has the smarts to see it. Everything proves its opposite, see…….

        Next he will convince us that the sun is part of great conspiracy to darken our planet: He’d say “…well OF COURSE THE SUN BRINGS MOMENTARY ILLUMINATION, AS A DISGUISE FOR ITS ULTIMATE PLAN FOR ETERNAL MIDNIGHT…” Only AJ can understand the complex logic of this profound conspiracy, among all the others he falls for daily……….

        • jB

          I actually enjoy a lot of I D Gress’s ravings. It was just one more time where I was reading along wondering if this particular rant was going to last much longer only to discover, using those slidey things on the side of my iPhone, that there was another yard of AJ comments alone. That’s when I got fed up. I’m a conspiracists skeptic so iit’s only entertainment value for me so when it gets too long (in a blog venue for chrissake) and twisted it becomes just plain wrong.

          Just get to the goddamn point please and link [sic] your sources if you like.

          I don’t wish to mean. I’m just fed up. Fuck it.

  5. hmmm… that ‘vision system’ would be great for hoovering up intel:

  6. Yeah my thought is
    A. Snowden is not a hero, but 95% or more of his revelations were only revelations to “journalists” who have not bothered to talk to any IT security guy in the last 10 years or more.
    B. The intelligence coomunity are a bunch of jerks whom with modest trade craft could have avoided Snowden-like “revelations” and who ARE engaging in a worrisome amount of espionage on things which should not concern them.

  7. Oppressed in Crook County, IL

    Border security in inaction…